Absolutely! That's why backups are so vital!
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Nov 2, 2016, at 2:27 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks much for those insights, very informative.
Agreed taht we can't wait around for a new release to work for everybody, but
if there's a good way to realize that you're having bugs that others are
having, and an easy way to roll back and wait for the next update, that might
be a good way to go. I did that a bunch with my iPhone 4s, tried an update,
and if it didn't work roll back to the previous iOS.
Peace,
Ian
On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't think i would agree that Until it works for all of us it's not ready
for prime time. There are too many people and too many variations of why
things don't work for people to warrant it working for all of us as a
criterion in my opinion.
I haven't noticed a huge difference between my clean install and my upgraded
install but at least in theory, a clean install would avoid conflicts and
baggage from the old install and therefore would be better especially if you
have done it as an upgrade and have problems that really keep you from
working effectively. But remember that a true clean install really means
just that: you don't do the upgrade and then use Migration Assistant to
bring everything in from your old system. When I do a clean install, I
install the system and only copy in files I need for working with it right
away. Then I assess my problems or lack thereof and gradually add other
applications and files but I don't just migrate everything over. But I am
not suggesting that everybody should do this; it's possible to upgrade a
system and be fine or be able to troubleshoot problems. I'm just saying that
you will probably have at least a better chance of avoiding conflicts that
may be triggered by something in your old install that the new OS doesn't
handle well if you do a clean install. I would never try to say that this
means you will avoid any problems and if I had not been running a beta I
don't know whether i would have done a clean install or not.
I am sure that those of us doing betas do report bugs just like
non-voiceover users do, but that doesn't mean that they all get fixed just
as I am sure that all those reported by non-voiceover users do not get
fixed. Also, there are definitely bugs that come up after the beta is
finished and the actual release is in place.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Agreed, if you don’t need a particular feature in Sierra, like if you had a
a really compelling reason to need SIRI, I’m not finding it does anythign
better, and the few bugs like this are frustrating.
Not to get off on too much of a tangent, but I know there are Voiceover
user in the various beta programs, do these kinds of problems come up in
Beta? I understand the nature of non-disclosure in a beta program, but is
there anything that can be flagged the moment the OS is released? I’m
thinking about problems specific to voiceover users, things that a sighted
user just wouldn't experience, so it doesn't affect whether or not they
should get the update. I'm guessing that someone is going to come along and
tell me that there is just such a list, can you provide the link? I'm
usually quite the early adopter, but this experience is going to warrant a
cooling off period during the next update cycle.
By the way, my really compelling reason for upgrading to Sierra is the
universal clipboard. I do a lot of updating for my job on my iPhone
calendar, and the ability to type something in on my Mac and then paste it
from there onto my phone is great, much easier than trying to dictate on my
phone using Siri in the middle of a busy coffee shop.
One further pondering, do those of you who do a clean instal every time
rather than an update experience the same kinds of problems? Is there
something to be said for doing a clean install?
Ian
On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This has been the problem with Sierra with our macbook air. I have been
trying to tell folks not to upgrade until this works better but I have not
been successful because some one comes along and says mine is fine and I'm
sure that this is true but until it works for all of us its not ready for
prime time.
IMHO.
Keith
We print the Bible in Braille,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson
Taylor.
On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Richard Bartholomew <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
I’m experiencing this, too, and my folders are not particularly large.
In addition, and more alarming, I have mails in my inbox which delete
themselves at sporadic intervals and, no, I don’t have any rules set.
Regards
Richard Bartholomew
On 2 Nov 2016, at 14:51, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Since upgrading to Sierra I’ve had a lot of busy notifications,
especially in Mail. In addition to hearing the busy alert, it’s really
slow reacting when I delete messages. Like if I hit delete, the whole
message line is read before the cursor moves to the next line of the
in-box. That’s often where Mail goes busy, when I delete one message and
try to arrow down to find a subsequent message.
Thoughts on optimal settings, what could be causing the slow down?
If it helps with the pondering, I’m using Mail with a Gmail account, and
I do have over 10,000 messages in my in box. I’ll try disableing my main
accountto see if I have the same problem with a less substantial message
list.
Ian
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