I don't think i would agree that Until it works for all of us it's not ready
for prime time. There are too many people and too many variations of why things
don't work for people to warrant it working for all of us as a criterion in my
opinion.
I haven't noticed a huge difference between my clean install and my upgraded
install but at least in theory, a clean install would avoid conflicts and
baggage from the old install and therefore would be better especially if you
have done it as an upgrade and have problems that really keep you from working
effectively. But remember that a true clean install really means just that: you
don't do the upgrade and then use Migration Assistant to bring everything in
from your old system. When I do a clean install, I install the system and only
copy in files I need for working with it right away. Then I assess my problems
or lack thereof and gradually add other applications and files but I don't just
migrate everything over. But I am not suggesting that everybody should do this;
it's possible to upgrade a system and be fine or be able to troubleshoot
problems. I'm just saying that you will probably have at least a better chance
of avoiding conflicts that may be triggered by something in your old install
that the new OS doesn't handle well if you do a clean install. I would never
try to say that this means you will avoid any problems and if I had not been
running a beta I don't know whether i would have done a clean install or not.
I am sure that those of us doing betas do report bugs just like non-voiceover
users do, but that doesn't mean that they all get fixed just as I am sure that
all those reported by non-voiceover users do not get fixed. Also, there are
definitely bugs that come up after the beta is finished and the actual release
is in place.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Agreed, if you don’t need a particular feature in Sierra, like if you had a a
really compelling reason to need SIRI, I’m not finding it does anythign
better, and the few bugs like this are frustrating.
Not to get off on too much of a tangent, but I know there are Voiceover user
in the various beta programs, do these kinds of problems come up in Beta? I
understand the nature of non-disclosure in a beta program, but is there
anything that can be flagged the moment the OS is released? I’m thinking
about problems specific to voiceover users, things that a sighted user just
wouldn't experience, so it doesn't affect whether or not they should get the
update. I'm guessing that someone is going to come along and tell me that
there is just such a list, can you provide the link? I'm usually quite the
early adopter, but this experience is going to warrant a cooling off period
during the next update cycle.
By the way, my really compelling reason for upgrading to Sierra is the
universal clipboard. I do a lot of updating for my job on my iPhone calendar,
and the ability to type something in on my Mac and then paste it from there
onto my phone is great, much easier than trying to dictate on my phone using
Siri in the middle of a busy coffee shop.
One further pondering, do those of you who do a clean instal every time
rather than an update experience the same kinds of problems? Is there
something to be said for doing a clean install?
Ian
On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This has been the problem with Sierra with our macbook air. I have been
trying to tell folks not to upgrade until this works better but I have not
been successful because some one comes along and says mine is fine and I'm
sure that this is true but until it works for all of us its not ready for
prime time.
IMHO.
Keith
We print the Bible in Braille,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Richard Bartholomew <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
I’m experiencing this, too, and my folders are not particularly large. In
addition, and more alarming, I have mails in my inbox which delete
themselves at sporadic intervals and, no, I don’t have any rules set.
Regards
Richard Bartholomew
On 2 Nov 2016, at 14:51, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Since upgrading to Sierra I’ve had a lot of busy notifications, especially
in Mail. In addition to hearing the busy alert, it’s really slow reacting
when I delete messages. Like if I hit delete, the whole message line is
read before the cursor moves to the next line of the in-box. That’s often
where Mail goes busy, when I delete one message and try to arrow down to
find a subsequent message.
Thoughts on optimal settings, what could be causing the slow down?
If it helps with the pondering, I’m using Mail with a Gmail account, and I
do have over 10,000 messages in my in box. I’ll try disableing my main
accountto see if I have the same problem with a less substantial message
list.
Ian
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