Thanks for that Hazel I'll give them a ring andarrange some sessions with them. Like you though, I live an hours journey from Liverpool or Manchester and work full time so might be a bit difficult. Did you have an itinerary with them or was it just turn up and go for it? Andy ________________________________ From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hazel Flannigan Sent: 05 November 2013 09:36 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: training Hello, Andy, I found it very useful as the trainers could tailor it to your needs. Sometimes it is good to have someone beside you to identify the function keys etc. The people in the store have plenty of time and patience and if they see there is a demand for VO training then they will provide it. I have worked with a number of trainers and you can ask for one in particular especially if they are blind friendly. Like you the Mac was a big step and you need to keep at it to improve. My only difficulty is that the Belfast store is an hour away from my home and I need to learn the route with my guide dog. I am nearly there but, my Mum has just died and so things are on hold at the moment. But I do intend returning to the store in the future . Apple staff will stand over their product and are very willing to help. Best wishes and I hope it all works out for you soon. Hazel Flannigan From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mackenzie Andrew (EAST CHESHIRE NHS TRUST - RJN) Sent: 05 November 2013 09:07 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: training Hi Hazel, thanks for that and I'll look into it further. Have you availed yourself of this service and how beneficial did you find it? Andy ________________________________ From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hazel Flannigan Sent: 04 November 2013 18:37 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: training Hello, Andy, I live in Northern Ireland and you can join a one to one service at your local Apple Mac Store. They charge £79 for a one year subscription and they will trouble shoot and help navigate the beast. You can bring any apple device and they will help with Voice over too. They The group in Belfast really try hard. I am sure it will be the same in England too. Best wishes, Hazel Flannigan Armagh. From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mackenzie Andrew (EAST CHESHIRE NHS TRUST - RJN) Sent: 04 November 2013 13:20 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: training Hi Scott, thanks for that I will look into this further. Do you know of any training packs for Mac? I know freedom scientific do a set of cds for Jaws users, is there a similar thing available with Apple? Andy ________________________________ From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: 04 November 2013 13:15 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: training Well, Loo who I think is on this list is in the UK and offers Mac services, maybe you could pay him to train you and your training would already be blindness specific from a skilled technician. Pending that, the Apple store has one on one sessions. I have heard from blind users in the states these can be very good and the staff is usually familiar with VO. I think these classes are about $100 US. (I think that's about 60 Pounds) Finally, the Moderator is a certified Apple technician / trainer. Maybe you could work a deal there. On Nov 4, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Mackenzie Andrew (EAST CHESHIRE NHS TRUST - RJN) <andrew.mackenzie4@xxxxxxx<mailto:andrew.mackenzie4@xxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi all, does anyone know where I can find some basic mac training - face to face in theUK? If not does anyone know of any other basic training ie podcasts or online training etc. Thanks Andy ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. 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