I'm with him, I'd not survive those litter trays either. Cats are lovely but ... On 2013-01-31, at 4:16 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Oh, I'm sure we'd do just fine, it's just not my preference. > > Did you see the town where they had a bunch of sets of twins and triplets in > the same elementary school class? > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:04 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > > Then you'd never survive with our SIX litter boxes, David. LOL. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:33 PM > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice > > > I'd rather change diapers than pick up poop. > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:57 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I will do the puppy, but you can change those dipers > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 09:32 >> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice >> >> Puppies and babies, that's the way to go! >> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman >> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> no, but you can put one in a papoose pack. >>> they are sooooooooo cute! >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> but you can't have a guide cat. >>> On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman >> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> cats would do it for me. >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for >> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that >> they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are >> tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. >>>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. >> Now as for >>>>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I >> phone or >>>>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the >> Braille >>>>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation >> because >>>>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had >> that they >>>>> didn't. LOL. >>>>> >>>>> Sharon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially >> the iPad >>>>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, >> $799 and >>>>> $999 price tag >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who >> want to >>>>> drop the thread. >>>>> >>>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is >> that I think >>>>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a >> newer >>>>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind >> specific or >>>>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the >> fashion >>>>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us >> but it >>>>> stood out more. >>>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone >> doesn't >>>>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone >> else's >>>>> iPhone because it is. >>>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone >> will sit >>>>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're >> interesting and >>>>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's >> to late >>>>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some >> degree. >>>>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead >> of >>>>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, >> take >>>>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in >> them, >>>>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't >> live with >>>>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the >> really >>>>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically >> attracted >>>>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she >> realizes >>>>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. >> WHere >>>>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >>>>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general >> perceptions. >>>>> Does that make sense? >>>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or >> think anyone >>>>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because >> we all, >>>>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese >> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and >> fascinated >>>>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few >> cases where >>>>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of >> course, >>>>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can >> tie our >>>>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>>>>> >>>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I >> think >>>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>>>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something >> truly >>>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a >> 128 GB >>>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate >> took the >>>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded >> that it >>>>>>> talked. >>>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@granados- >> llc.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf >> jerky.:) >>>>>>>> heeheee >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general >> are good >>>>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the >> technology >>>>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same >> reasons >>>>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet >> is in >>>>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a >> sign of >>>>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction >> here >>>>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with >> bacon.:) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? >> Good god >>>>>>>>> alight. >>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese >> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I >> bought >>>>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason >> to buy >>>>>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? >> So why >>>>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only >> thing >>>>>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 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