I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to drop the thread. So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I think people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific or strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it stood out more. Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone doesn't look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's iPhone because it is. I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will sit down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting and intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to late for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically attracted to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she realizes your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. WHere as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. Does that make sense? I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think anyone should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated with > adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases where people > have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, there are > some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our own shoelaces, > but that's a different story. > > In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think > that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor hardware > improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly innovative > they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB model is probably > the types of upgrades we will be seeing. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the bus >> and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that it talked. >> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) heeheee >>> >>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are good >>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology hub >>> of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes available. >>> There's also the status symbol factor. For the same reasons that some >>> people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in some ways a >>> sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of being with the >>> times and current. Either way, my main direction here was using technology >>> as an ice breaker. >>> >>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god >>>> alight. >>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought mine? >>>>> You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy one .... >>>>> *grin* >>>>> >>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why did >>>>>> you >>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing good >>>>>> with >>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 >>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where this will go >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Jonnie Appleseed >>>>>>>> With His >>>>>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s >>>>>>>> touching the internet >>>>>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities >>>>>>>> One Byte At a time >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ************ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any >>>>>>> changes to their list subscription is: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ************ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any >>>>>>> changes to their list subscription is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> ************ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>>>> their list subscription is: >>>>>> >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>>> >>>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>>> >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>>> >>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>>> >>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>>> their list subscription is: >>>>> >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>>> >>>>> The list archive is located at >>>>> >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>>> >>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>>> >>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>> >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>>> >>>> >>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>>> their list subscription is: >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>>> >>>> The list archive is located at >>>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>>> >>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>>> >>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> ************ >> >> >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >> >> >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >> their list subscription is: >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >> >> The list archive is located at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >> >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >> >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. 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