[mac4theblind] Re: people's reaction to technology especially the iPad was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag

  • From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:31:37 -0500

it would bee good if command-f5 overrode mute.

On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:18 AM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote:

Thanks. I couldn't remember which one it is. Good idea.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: people's reaction to technology especially the 
iPad was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 
and $999 price tag


Tell your husband to just hit command F5 to turn off VO when he uses it and 
then you can hit command F5 to restart when you sit down. It's easier than 
mute.

On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:20 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote:

> Speaking of screens and speech....my husband has found the MUTE on my I 
> Mac
> and then forgets to tell me he muted it. Being so new to using the Mac,
> guess who panics!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:58 PM
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: people's reaction to technology especially the
> iPad was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, 
> $799
> and $999 price tag
> 
> 
> we all gotta start somewhere, it's where we wind up that matters.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Guilty as charged, I used to think that to be honest with you but it was
> years before I knew smart phones were accessible. Go ahead and run me off
> this list if you wish but I was dumb and there aren't a lot of blind 
> people
> around here who use them.
> On 2013-01-30, at 3:40 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
>> oh, don't you know? blind people need keyboards.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahomiak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, it makes sense except that I think people can tell I'm blind right
>> away usually so they are very interested in how I, as a blind person, use
>> the same technology they use since they see it more a svisually-opperated
>> technology.
>> 
>> --
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want 
>>> to
>>> drop the thread.
>>> 
>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I
>>> think people don't realize you are blind, especially at first.  THis is 
>>> a
>>> newer experience because previously, our technology looked very blind
>>> specific or strange to sited observers.  I've often said our devices had
>>> the fashion cense of a brick.  This may have suited very specific needs
>>> for us but it stood out more.
>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using.  My phone
>>> doesn't look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone
>>> else's iPhone because it is.
>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will
>>> sit down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're
>>> interesting and intelligent before they realize you have a disability 
>>> and
>>> then it's to late for them to think negatively because you've won them
>>> over to some degree.  You're starting the experience from a place of
>>> commonality instead of difference.  Some young lady for example may sit
>>> down next to you, take interesting in your iPad because she has / wants 
>>> /
>>> is interested in them, through the course of conversation learns you 
>>> have
>>> a job, don't live with your mother and are put together and since you've
>>> hit all the really important points she cares about and obviously fit 
>>> the
>>> physically attracted to you bit by picking you out of the other options
>>> by the time she realizes your blind it's way down the list of things she
>>> really cares about.  WHere as if you have some device that makes you
>>> stick out that initial conversation may carry more baggage from 
>>> societies
>>> general perceptions.  Does that make sense?
>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think
>>> anyone should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because
>>> we all, blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or
>>> another.
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated
>>>> with adaptive technology devices.  I have had more than a few cases
>>>> where people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad.  Of
>>>> course, there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can
>>>> tie our own shoelaces, but that's a different story.
>>>> 
>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think
>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor
>>>> hardware improvements with each model.  Unless Apple has something 
>>>> truly
>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB
>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the
>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that
>>>>> it talked.
>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:)
>>>>>> heeheee
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are
>>>>>> good ice breakers.  Lets also remember where I did this was the
>>>>>> technology hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both
>>>>>> sexes available.  There's also the status symbol factor.  For the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> reasons that some people drive higher end cars having a high end
>>>>>> tablet is in some ways a sign of success although maybe better put
>>>>>> it's a sign of being with the times and current.  Either way, my main
>>>>>> direction here was using technology as an ice breaker.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god
>>>>>>> alight.
>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wait a second.  Pick up chicks with an iPad?  Is that why I bought
>>>>>>>> mine?  You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy
>>>>>>>> one .... *grin*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see?  So 
>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>> did you
>>>>>>>>> by one?  aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing
>>>>>>>>> good with
>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks???
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> 128
>>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:)  Leave it to apple.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the
>>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where this
>>>>>>>>>> will go
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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