I would like to know what does all this shit have to do with a mac computer??? can it maybe stop now > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CATNIP > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 16:57 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice > > No, they are supposed to guide YOU! The only problem is you can't house > train them and I don't know about changing diapers even for the ability > to > have a guide horse who might live 30 years! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Hilbert Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:43 PM > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice > > > you ride and guide them. > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:35 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > > Well, who would settle for a guide horse? I hear at least they live a > long > time! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edward Redfern > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice > > yes, a british miaw. I know, shameful. really I should be barking as > per > normal but someone mentioned cat nip. > > nothing wrong with the idea of a guide cat per say, but guide mice with > cloggs? hmmmm maybe the scientists with spare ears and glue have too > much to > do. > > lol > > lew > > Edward Redfern > Vintage Mower Restorer. > E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx > Twitter: redfernmowers > Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com > Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. > > Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch > for > more information. > > On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:47, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > cool, a kitty with a british accent. > > > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > am I drunk or am I really hearing this thread right? OK guide cats > for the > > blind? hmmmmm. NOPE! not a good idea there. think about it this way, > guide > > cats will scale walls, roofing, you name it. you - the intended > victim - > > will be taken places you don't want to go. > > > > on the other hand, from a cat to cat social arena, aka CAT TWITTER! > Miaww, > > Miaw, Miawwww! which roughly translates as. NOT DOING THAT AGAIN! > > > > lol > > > > lew > > > > Edward Redfern > > Vintage Mower Restorer. > > E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx > > Twitter: redfernmowers > > Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com > > Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. > > > > Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in > touch for > > more information. > > > > On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:26, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > >> most likely at the fish market. > >> > >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> I know! I keep saying I want a guide cat and now we have this HUGE > cat > >> with > >> a VERY LONG TAIL and I keep saying I'm going to use his tail as a > harness > >> and make a guide cat out of him! The problem is, I'm not sure WHERE > I > >> might > >> end up. LOL. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kerri" <shalom75@xxxxxxx> > >> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30 AM > >> Subject: [mac4theblind] ice > >> > >> > >> but you can't have a guide cat. > >> On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> cats would do it for me. > >>> > >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@granados- > llc.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for > >>> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either > that > >>> they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they > are > >>> tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. > >>> > >>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. > Now > >>>> as > >>>> for > >>>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I > phone > >>>> or > >>>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, > the > >>>> Braille > >>>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation > because > >>>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had > that > >>>> they > >>>> didn't. LOL. > >>>> > >>>> Sharon > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM > >>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially > the > >>>> iPad > >>>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, > $799 > >>>> and > >>>> $999 price tag > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who > want > >>>> to > >>>> drop the thread. > >>>> > >>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is > that I > >>>> think > >>>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is > a > >>>> newer > >>>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind > >>>> specific > >>>> or > >>>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the > >>>> fashion > >>>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us > but > >>>> it > >>>> stood out more. > >>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My > phone > >>>> doesn't > >>>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone > else's > >>>> iPhone because it is. > >>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that > someone > >>>> will > >>>> sit > >>>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're > >>>> interesting > >>>> and > >>>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then > it's to > >>>> late > >>>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some > >>>> degree. > >>>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead > of > >>>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, > take > >>>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested > in > >>>> them, > >>>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't > live > >>>> with > >>>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the > really > >>>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically > >>>> attracted > >>>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she > >>>> realizes > >>>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares > about. > >>>> WHere > >>>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial > >>>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general > perceptions. > >>>> Does that make sense? > >>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or > think > >>>> anyone > >>>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because > we > >>>> all, > >>>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or > another. > >>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese > <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and > fascinated > >>>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few > cases > >>>>> where > >>>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of > course, > >>>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can > tie > >>>>> our > >>>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. > >>>>> > >>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I > think > >>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and > minor > >>>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has > something > >>>>> truly > >>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a > 128 GB > >>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Take Care > >>>>> > >>>>> John D. Panarese > >>>>> Director > >>>>> Mac for the Blind > >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >>>>> > >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >>>>> > >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >>>>> > >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate > took > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded > that > >>>>>> it > >>>>>> talked. > >>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@granados- > llc.net> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf > jerky.:) > >>>>>>> heeheee > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general > are > >>>>>>> good > >>>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the > >>>>>>> technology > >>>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes > >>>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the > same > >>>>>>> reasons > >>>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet > is > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a > sign of > >>>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main > direction > >>>>>>> here > >>>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with > bacon.:) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? > Good > >>>>>>>> god > >>>>>>>> alight. > >>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese > <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I > bought > >>>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason > to > >>>>>>>>> buy > >>>>>>>>> one .... *grin* > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Take Care > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese > >>>>>>>>> Director > >>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind > >>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? > So > >>>>>>>>>> why > >>>>>>>>>> did you > >>>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only > >>>>>>>>>> thing > >>>>>>>>>> good with > >>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mac4theblind- > >>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 > >>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad > model > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> 128 > >>>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman > >>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size > of the > >>>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where > this > >>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>> go > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jonnie Appleseed > >>>>>>>>>>>> With His > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > >>>>>>>>>>>> touching the internet > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities > >>>>>>>>>>>> One Byte At a time > 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