Puppies and babies, that's the way to go! On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > no, but you can put one in a papoose pack. > they are sooooooooo cute! > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > but you can't have a guide cat. > On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> cats would do it for me. >> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for >> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that they >> are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are tech >> enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. >> >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now as for >>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone or >>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the Braille >>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because >>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that they >>> didn't. LOL. >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the iPad >>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 and >>> $999 price tag >>> >>> >>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to >>> drop the thread. >>> >>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I think >>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer >>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific or >>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion >>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it >>> stood out more. >>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone doesn't >>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's >>> iPhone because it is. >>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will sit >>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting and >>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to late >>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. >>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of >>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take >>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, >>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with >>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really >>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically attracted >>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she realizes >>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. WHere >>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. >>> Does that make sense? >>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think anyone >>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, >>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated >>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases where >>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, >>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our >>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>>> >>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think >>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly >>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB >>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the >>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that it >>>>> talked. >>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) >>>>>> heeheee >>>>>> >>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are good >>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology >>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same reasons >>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in >>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of >>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction here >>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god >>>>>>> alight. >>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought >>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy >>>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why >>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing >>>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with >>>>>>>>>> 128 >>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where this will >>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- 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