Babies, definitely no! puppies, maybe! Kittens....By all means! LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <shalom75@xxxxxxx> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: ice Babies, no thanks, puppies, sure. On 2013-01-31, at 9:32 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Puppies and babies, that's the way to go! > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman > <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> no, but you can put one in a papoose pack. >> they are sooooooooo cute! >> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> but you can't have a guide cat. >> On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> cats would do it for me. >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for >>> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that >>> they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are >>> tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now >>>> as for >>>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone >>>> or >>>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the >>>> Braille >>>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because >>>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that >>>> they >>>> didn't. LOL. >>>> >>>> Sharon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the >>>> iPad >>>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 >>>> and >>>> $999 price tag >>>> >>>> >>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want >>>> to >>>> drop the thread. >>>> >>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I >>>> think >>>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a >>>> newer >>>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind >>>> specific or >>>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the >>>> fashion >>>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but >>>> it >>>> stood out more. >>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone >>>> doesn't >>>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's >>>> iPhone because it is. >>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone >>>> will sit >>>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're >>>> interesting and >>>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to >>>> late >>>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some >>>> degree. >>>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of >>>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take >>>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in >>>> them, >>>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live >>>> with >>>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really >>>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically >>>> attracted >>>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she >>>> realizes >>>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. >>>> WHere >>>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >>>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. >>>> Does that make sense? >>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think >>>> anyone >>>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we >>>> all, >>>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated >>>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases >>>>> where >>>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, >>>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie >>>>> our >>>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>>>> >>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think >>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something >>>>> truly >>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB >>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took >>>>>> the >>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that >>>>>> it >>>>>> talked. >>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) >>>>>>> heeheee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are >>>>>>> good >>>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the >>>>>>> technology >>>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same >>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of >>>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction >>>>>>> here >>>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good >>>>>>>> god >>>>>>>> alight. >>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought >>>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to >>>>>>>>> buy >>>>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So >>>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only >>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> 128 >>>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows 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