Well oh that it would go to the canines as they are quite superior though I like both. On 2013-01-31, at 4:14 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > me agreeow! > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:04 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: > > I beg your pardon, Carrie. I think it's going to the CATS! LOL. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kerri > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:29 PM > Subject: [mac4theblind] dogs > > this list is going to the dogs! lol. > On 2013-01-31, at 12:26 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> yes, a british miaw. I know, shameful. really I should be barking as per >> normal but someone mentioned cat nip. >> >> nothing wrong with the idea of a guide cat per say, but guide mice with >> cloggs? hmmmm maybe the scientists with spare ears and glue have too much to >> do. >> >> lol >> >> lew >> >> Edward Redfern >> Vintage Mower Restorer. >> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx >> Twitter: redfernmowers >> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com >> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. >> >> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for >> more information. >> >> On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:47, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> cool, a kitty with a british accent. >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> am I drunk or am I really hearing this thread right? OK guide cats for the >>> blind? hmmmmm. NOPE! not a good idea there. think about it this way, guide >>> cats will scale walls, roofing, you name it. you - the intended victim - >>> will be taken places you don't want to go. >>> >>> on the other hand, from a cat to cat social arena, aka CAT TWITTER! Miaww, >>> Miaw, Miawwww! which roughly translates as. NOT DOING THAT AGAIN! >>> >>> lol >>> >>> lew >>> >>> Edward Redfern >>> Vintage Mower Restorer. >>> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx >>> Twitter: redfernmowers >>> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com >>> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. >>> >>> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for >>> more information. >>> >>> On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:26, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> most likely at the fish market. >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> I know! I keep saying I want a guide cat and now we have this HUGE cat >>>> with >>>> a VERY LONG TAIL and I keep saying I'm going to use his tail as a harness >>>> and make a guide cat out of him! The problem is, I'm not sure WHERE I >>>> might >>>> end up. LOL. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kerri" <shalom75@xxxxxxx> >>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30 AM >>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] ice >>>> >>>> >>>> but you can't have a guide cat. >>>> On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> cats would do it for me. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for >>>>> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that >>>>> they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are >>>>> tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now as >>>>>> for >>>>>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone >>>>>> or >>>>>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the >>>>>> Braille >>>>>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because >>>>>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that they >>>>>> didn't. LOL. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sharon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the >>>>>> iPad >>>>>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 >>>>>> and >>>>>> $999 price tag >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to >>>>>> drop the thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I >>>>>> think >>>>>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer >>>>>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific >>>>>> or >>>>>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion >>>>>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it >>>>>> stood out more. >>>>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's >>>>>> iPhone because it is. >>>>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will >>>>>> sit >>>>>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting >>>>>> and >>>>>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to >>>>>> late >>>>>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. >>>>>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of >>>>>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take >>>>>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, >>>>>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with >>>>>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really >>>>>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically >>>>>> attracted >>>>>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she >>>>>> realizes >>>>>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. >>>>>> WHere >>>>>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >>>>>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. >>>>>> Does that make sense? >>>>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think >>>>>> anyone >>>>>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, >>>>>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated >>>>>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, >>>>>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our >>>>>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think >>>>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>>>>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly >>>>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB >>>>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>> Director >>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the >>>>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> talked. >>>>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) >>>>>>>>> heeheee >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology >>>>>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same >>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in >>>>>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of >>>>>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction here >>>>>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god >>>>>>>>>> alight. >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought >>>>>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy >>>>>>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why >>>>>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> 128 >>>>>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this 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