this list is going to the dogs! lol. On 2013-01-31, at 12:26 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: > yes, a british miaw. I know, shameful. really I should be barking as per > normal but someone mentioned cat nip. > > nothing wrong with the idea of a guide cat per say, but guide mice with > cloggs? hmmmm maybe the scientists with spare ears and glue have too much to > do. > > lol > > lew > > Edward Redfern > Vintage Mower Restorer. > E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx > Twitter: redfernmowers > Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com > Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. > > Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for > more information. > > On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:47, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> cool, a kitty with a british accent. >> >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> am I drunk or am I really hearing this thread right? OK guide cats for the >> blind? hmmmmm. NOPE! not a good idea there. think about it this way, guide >> cats will scale walls, roofing, you name it. you - the intended victim - >> will be taken places you don't want to go. >> >> on the other hand, from a cat to cat social arena, aka CAT TWITTER! Miaww, >> Miaw, Miawwww! which roughly translates as. NOT DOING THAT AGAIN! >> >> lol >> >> lew >> >> Edward Redfern >> Vintage Mower Restorer. >> E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx >> Twitter: redfernmowers >> Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com >> Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. >> >> Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for >> more information. >> >> On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:26, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> most likely at the fish market. >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I know! I keep saying I want a guide cat and now we have this HUGE cat with >>> a VERY LONG TAIL and I keep saying I'm going to use his tail as a harness >>> and make a guide cat out of him! The problem is, I'm not sure WHERE I might >>> end up. LOL. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kerri" <shalom75@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30 AM >>> Subject: [mac4theblind] ice >>> >>> >>> but you can't have a guide cat. >>> On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> cats would do it for me. >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for >>>> everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that >>>> they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are >>>> tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. >>>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now as >>>>> for >>>>> devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone >>>>> or >>>>> pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the >>>>> Braille >>>>> Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because >>>>> everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that they >>>>> didn't. LOL. >>>>> >>>>> Sharon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM >>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the >>>>> iPad >>>>> was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 >>>>> and >>>>> $999 price tag >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to >>>>> drop the thread. >>>>> >>>>> So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I >>>>> think >>>>> people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer >>>>> experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific >>>>> or >>>>> strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion >>>>> cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it >>>>> stood out more. >>>>> Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone >>>>> doesn't >>>>> look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's >>>>> iPhone because it is. >>>>> I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will >>>>> sit >>>>> down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting >>>>> and >>>>> intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to >>>>> late >>>>> for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. >>>>> You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of >>>>> difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take >>>>> interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, >>>>> through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with >>>>> your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really >>>>> important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically >>>>> attracted >>>>> to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she >>>>> realizes >>>>> your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. >>>>> WHere >>>>> as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial >>>>> conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. >>>>> Does that make sense? >>>>> I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think >>>>> anyone >>>>> should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, >>>>> blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. >>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated >>>>>> with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases >>>>>> where >>>>>> people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, >>>>>> there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our >>>>>> own shoelaces, but that's a different story. >>>>>> >>>>>> In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think >>>>>> that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor >>>>>> hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly >>>>>> innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB >>>>>> model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the >>>>>>> bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> talked. >>>>>>> On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) >>>>>>>> heeheee >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are >>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>> ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology >>>>>>>> hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes >>>>>>>> available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same >>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>> that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in >>>>>>>> some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of >>>>>>>> being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction here >>>>>>>> was using technology as an ice breaker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god >>>>>>>>> alight. >>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought >>>>>>>>>> mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy >>>>>>>>>> one .... *grin* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why >>>>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>>>> by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing >>>>>>>>>>> good with >>>>>>>>>>> a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- >>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with >>>>>>>>>>>> 128 >>>>>>>>>>>> GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www So what Candace do for the iPhone as the size of the >>>>>>>>>>>> memory has increased on this upcoming iPad who knows where this 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