I beg your pardon, Carrie. I think it's going to the CATS! LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerri To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [mac4theblind] dogs this list is going to the dogs! lol. On 2013-01-31, at 12:26 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: yes, a british miaw. I know, shameful. really I should be barking as per normal but someone mentioned cat nip. nothing wrong with the idea of a guide cat per say, but guide mice with cloggs? hmmmm maybe the scientists with spare ears and glue have too much to do. lol lew Edward Redfern Vintage Mower Restorer. E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx Twitter: redfernmowers Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for more information. On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:47, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: cool, a kitty with a british accent. On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: am I drunk or am I really hearing this thread right? OK guide cats for the blind? hmmmmm. NOPE! not a good idea there. think about it this way, guide cats will scale walls, roofing, you name it. you - the intended victim - will be taken places you don't want to go. on the other hand, from a cat to cat social arena, aka CAT TWITTER! Miaww, Miaw, Miawwww! which roughly translates as. NOT DOING THAT AGAIN! lol lew Edward Redfern Vintage Mower Restorer. E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx Twitter: redfernmowers Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for more information. On 31 Jan 2013, at 19:26, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: most likely at the fish market. On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "CATNIP" <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: I know! I keep saying I want a guide cat and now we have this HUGE cat with a VERY LONG TAIL and I keep saying I'm going to use his tail as a harness and make a guide cat out of him! The problem is, I'm not sure WHERE I might end up. LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <shalom75@xxxxxxx> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:30 AM Subject: [mac4theblind] ice but you can't have a guide cat. On 2013-01-31, at 7:19 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: cats would do it for me. On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: You make some great points and yes, dogs are great ice breakers for everyone. You learn something about people quickly as well either that they are animallovers in the dog case which is a good thing or they are tech enthusiasts in the iPad case which is also a good thing. On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 PM, CATNIP <ajokitty@xxxxx> wrote: Hmmm. I know when I had a guide dog it was a definite icebreaker. Now as for devices....You may have something there unless, of course, your I phone or pad is talking out loud to you or, as I'm just learning to use, the Braille Pen 12 with my I pad. Now THAT could strike up a conversation because everyone would wonder what kind of a cute little device you had that they didn't. LOL. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: [mac4theblind] people's reaction to technology especially the iPad was Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag I changed the subject to keep things easier to sort for folks who want to drop the thread. So one of the interesting things about the iPad specifically is that I think people don't realize you are blind, especially at first. THis is a newer experience because previously, our technology looked very blind specific or strange to sited observers. I've often said our devices had the fashion cense of a brick. This may have suited very specific needs for us but it stood out more. Now I use the same iPad that everyone around me is using. My phone doesn't look like a brick with big buttons on it, it looks like everyone else's iPhone because it is. I think what happens now, at least in my experience is that someone will sit down, strike up a conversation with you and find that you're interesting and intelligent before they realize you have a disability and then it's to late for them to think negatively because you've won them over to some degree. You're starting the experience from a place of commonality instead of difference. Some young lady for example may sit down next to you, take interesting in your iPad because she has / wants / is interested in them, through the course of conversation learns you have a job, don't live with your mother and are put together and since you've hit all the really important points she cares about and obviously fit the physically attracted to you bit by picking you out of the other options by the time she realizes your blind it's way down the list of things she really cares about. WHere as if you have some device that makes you stick out that initial conversation may carry more baggage from societies general perceptions. Does that make sense? I don't in any way mean to say that I am hiding my blindness or think anyone should, be real with what you are:) but think icebreakers because we all, blind, sited or other wise need icebreakers of one form or another. On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think, overall, some people are generally surprised and fascinated with adaptive technology devices. I have had more than a few cases where people have come up to me to ask about the iPhone or iPad. Of course, there are some sighted folks who can hardly believe that we can tie our own shoelaces, but that's a different story. In regard to the new iPad and keeping this on topic, honestly, I think that we are only going to see increases to the processor and minor hardware improvements with each model. Unless Apple has something truly innovative they are keeping a complete secret, something like a 128 GB model is probably the types of upgrades we will be seeing. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: All teasing aside, they are good ice breakers as my room mate took the bus and someone saw her working on her iPhone and were astounded that it talked. On 2013-01-30, at 3:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: As mentioned, you'd probably do better with donuts or beaf jerky.:) heeheee All I meant folks is these things like iPads or tech in general are good ice breakers. Lets also remember where I did this was the technology hub of the planet so there are lots of gear heads of both sexes available. There's also the status symbol factor. For the same reasons that some people drive higher end cars having a high end tablet is in some ways a sign of success although maybe better put it's a sign of being with the times and current. Either way, my main direction here was using technology as an ice breaker. Oh and if you want to pick up guys it just hit me, go with bacon.:) On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Kerri <shalom75@xxxxxxx> wrote: how in hell can one pick up guys (in my case) with an iPad? Good god alight. On 2013-01-29, at 3:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Wait a second. Pick up chicks with an iPad? Is that why I bought mine? You'll be sadly disappointed if you chose that reason to buy one .... *grin* I think he was lamenting over the 128 GB storage. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Scott why do you need a retna display when you can not see? So why did you by one? aren't you the one who told me in the past the only thing good with a iPad is to pick up chicks at a local starbucks??? -----Original Message----- From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23 To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Apple announces Retina iPad model with 128 GB of storage, $799 and $999 price tag Wow, I just got my 64:) Leave it to apple. 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