It's really something you just have to try sometimes. I wouldn't have known unless I had heard a podcast describing it. Marcie's method works just as effectively as well. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.macfortheblind.com AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Aug 27, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Brian and Denise Albriton wrote: > Hi, John. Never occurred to me to use the tab key. I'm not clear when its > appropriate to use the basic keystrokes available, those being tab, enter, > and vo keys with the arrows. I have hints turned on which helps a bit. I > imagine a year from now all this will be just instinctive. > Make a long story short, your message helped quite a bitl. > Brian > > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, John Panarese wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> OK, try this. In your message list when you hear a message conversation >> group, tab once. This should bring you to the message content area of >> either the first or last message in the conversation, depending on how you >> have Mail configured. Then use the VO keys and left or right arrow keys to >> move to each additional message in the conversation. Just shift tab back to >> the message list when you are done to delete the conversation or delete the >> separate messages in the content area. >> >> Note that I am assuming you are using the new standard view, btw. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:17 PM, Brian and Denise Albriton wrote: >> >>> This question is difficult for me to frame but here goes. How can I read >>> email grouped by conversation. I've read in the help that the conversations >>> are collapsed and there is a discosure triangle to click which will >>> uncollapse it. I hear disclosure triangle spoken but don't know how to >>> click it. Using vo plus spacebar just brings up a menu. The enter key does >>> do anything. >>> I spent a little time, well an hour actually with a one on one appointment >>> at apple but the poor guy who couldn't have bgeen more helpful couldn't >>> figure it eiother. >>> All the best and have a grand weekend, >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> ************ >>> >>> >>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >>> >>> >>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >>> their list subscription is: >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >>> >>> The list archive is located at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >>> >>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >>> >>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> ************ >> >> >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. >> >> >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to >> their list subscription is: >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind >> >> The list archive is located at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ >> >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: >> >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to > their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx