[lit-ideas] Re: Yahoo! Traitors with Clinton Sidebar

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:00:35 -0400

> [Original Message]
> From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 9/21/2005 3:19:48 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Yahoo! Traitors with Clinton Sidebar
>
> Here's the fruit of some of Clinton's and Bush's laissez faire, and 
> Yahoo!'s complicity. Note the reference to Clinton in paragraph 
> nine. -EY
>

Yeah, so?  He organized a conference, that makes him a communist or a
fascist or what?  You're of the Bush school that says isolate them, like
North Korea, and hope they knuckle under.  Do you have any idea how
powerful China is, economically, commercially, militarily?  Short of nuking
them out of existence, we don't stand a chance against them, but they have
nukes too.  We have to try to keep relations friendly.  Well, we don't
*have* to.  Certainly Bush isn't too worried about it.  Regarding their
media, the Chinese see the media as propaganda and they're not going to go
for it, whether you like it or not.  Maybe they'll change, maybe they
won't, but if they do, it won't be from being badgered by Clinton or
anybody else.  In addition to which, Clinton can't stop corporations from
moving to China.  All he can do is keep whatever communication there is
open.  I trust him as a lobbyist for the country.  Not to mention that
nobody else is doing it.  


Andy Amago



>
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chinamedia21sep21,0,6419134.story?coll
=la-home-business
>
>
> China Gets Tougher on Foreign Media
> # Recent rules hinder entry into the market by Disney and others 
> amid rapid industry growth.
>
> By Don Lee, Times Staff Writer
>
> SHANGHAI ? After presiding over the opening of Hong Kong Disneyland 
> last week, Walt Disney Co. President Robert Iger headed straight to 
> Beijing to meet Liu Yunshan, chief of the Communist Party's powerful 
> Propaganda Department.
>
> Disney declined to say what the two men discussed, but it's a good 
> bet that Iger, who will become chief executive Oct. 1, renewed his 
> case for the Disney Channel in China, and that once again he was 
> told to wait. Disney has been waiting since 2003 for a broadcasting 
> license from Beijing so it can air its programs to some of the 340 
> million homes with cable TV.
>
> Last year, prospects looked good when China moved toward loosening 
> rules on foreign media investments. But in recent months, Liu and 
> other leaders of the Chinese government have clamped down on 
> foreigners' participation in China's burgeoning media industry, 
> declaring last month that they wouldn't allow more foreign 
> television channels and would tighten their grip on the 31 satellite 
> broadcasters in China.
>
> Chinese officials say they want to "safeguard national cultural 
> security." But some analysts believe that the restrictions are aimed 
> at keeping advertising revenue in the hands of state-controlled and 
> domestic media enterprises. Even as Beijing has moved to limit 
> foreign companies, it has encouraged the development of private 
> Chinese media firms.
>
> Disney isn't the only company hindered by the new rules. Viacom 
> Inc.'s Nickelodeon children's channel has been waiting for two years 
> for a broadcasting license. One of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. 
> ventures in China has been shut down. Time Warner Inc., Sony Corp. 
> and others involved in co-production of movies in China now face 
> greater censorship.
>
> These media giants haven't said much about how the rules will affect 
> their investment plans. For the most part, they're "sitting tight, 
> not upsetting regulators and being more patient," said Vivek Couto, 
> an executive director of Media Partners Asia in Hong Kong.
>
> But frustrations are beginning to spill out.
>
> Murdoch, who with his Chinese-born wife, Wendi Deng, has cultivated 
> Beijing over the last decade to become the top Western television 
> company in China, said at a conference Friday in New York that his 
> company had "hit a brick wall" in the Middle Kingdom. In the last 
> year, he said, China has backed away from opening up to foreign news 
> organizations. He called Chinese authorities "quite paranoid about 
> what gets through."
>
> Richard Parsons, Time Warner's chairman, who also spoke at the 
> session organized by former President Clinton, said the Chinese 
> wanted to monitor the traffic and e-mails sent on the Internet. 
> Parsons said that was why he bailed out of a deal to distribute 
> America Online there.
>
> Some industry executives and analysts view the curbs against Western 
> media as part of Chinese President Hu Jintao's broader campaign to 
> head off perceived threats to his rule. Communist leaders have long 
> seen the media as more of a propaganda tool than a commercial 
> enterprise. In recent months, the central government has reined in 
> journalists and cut off Internet forums at some major universities 
> as the Internet has helped to foster criticism of party officials 
> and policies.
>
> The restrictions on foreign media coincide with a changing of the 
> guard at the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television, 
> where longtime provincial official Wang Taihua replaced media 
> veteran Xu Guangchun as head of the regulatory body.
>
> Some American media executives also believe that Beijing's 
> tightening reflects the deterioration of U.S.-China relations in the 
> last year.
>
> <snip>
>
> Chinese analysts are skeptical. "China does not have a commitment to 
> open its media industry," said Chen Shaofeng, vice director of the 
> Research Institute of Cultural Industry, which is connected to 
> Peking University.
>
> Of Disney's chances of winning a channel in the near future, Chen 
> said, "It won't happen."
>
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