<<great ads and great art "work" (affect their audiences) in the same way>> I wonder how you define "great ads". If, by definition, they are ads which pursuade people to purchase or do something, I'd be hard pressed to cite an example. On the other hand there are a few, precious few, pieces of advertising which are genuinely artistic and enormously creative -- I have noted that when I see such (e.g., on TV) and remark on its artistic and creative qualities, I have no idea what the product was. Lack of product ID almost seems the hallmark of "great ads". JK ========Original Message======== Subj:[lit-ideas] Re: The Magic of Images: Word and Picture in a Media Age Date:4/9/2004 9:48:19 PM Central Daylight Time From:mccreery@xxxxxxx To:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent on: On 2004/04/08, at 21:11, Steven G. Cameron wrote: > **Yes, but... Why do some works succeed (we've discussed the "sublime" > a few times over the years on this list's various incarnations)?? If > you > consider obvious selections: The Mona Lisa, Wagner's Ninth, Pride and > Prejudice, The Wizard of Oz, The Beatles' Yesterday, Hamlet, many > Mythology tales, etc.-- what do they have in common, if not some of the > concepts noted above?? I agree absolutely that the concepts invoked by Paglia are not specific to advertising. But I wonder what you would think of the proposition that great ads and great art "work" (affect their audiences) in the same way, the differences between ads and art lying in their objectives instead of their mechanisms. John L. McCreery The Word Works, Ltd. 55-13-202 Miyagaya, Nishi-ku Yokohama, Japan 220-0006 Tel 81-45-314-9324 Email mccreery@xxxxxxx "Making Symbols is Our Business" ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html