Well, if it was such an important war, why wasn't it fought more seriously? Why did the Army have to laugh at their proposal and insist on a larger army than what Rove & Co. wanted, and still be nowhere close to what was needed? Why was there no plan for after Baghdad fell? Why did we go to war with the army we had instead of the army we needed (a paraphrase)? Why cut taxes when the money is needed for military spending to fund the army to fight this war that we need so desperately? Yadda yadda. In short, why was it not waged as if it was an important war? If you say it was the Democrats' fault, then you're passing the buck. The Republicans run the show and he had everybody's approval in any case. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 1/20/2006 8:13:44 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape Thanks: It shouldn?t be beyond you that I support this present war or compare it to WWII, but I know where you get your info so I?m not surprised that it is. In WWII we were attacked by adherents of fascist philosophies who hoped to conquer us. On 9/11 we were attacked by adherents of a fascist ideology who hoped to conquer us. (And that wasn?t the first attack or the first declaration of war against us by adherents of this ideology.) Information about the Fascist regimes of WWII was readily available to the curious. Information about Islamist Fascist regimes and strategies is also available to the curious. Since I am not a pacifist I do not wish to be conquered by the Islamists. I don?t even want our nation to be attacked by them. Furthermore, since I have been curious about the players I have spent a lot of time checking them out. Iraq was an enormous impediment in the way of our war against the Islamists. The war against Iraq has been a tremendous success in the war against the Islamists. You of course won?t have heard that yet, but you will. Of course the Islamists are slippery devils ready to pull the wool over the eyes of the unwary. See Andre Nusse?s Muslim Palestine as an example of how they operate. The Islamists don?t fit the Western preconception of Nation States. Sayyid Qutb didn?t believe in the separation of the ummah into nations. This information is available to the curious and energetic. Thus, since the Islamists have declared war against us, we who aren?t pacifists, seek to oppose them. The Middle East, thanks to WWI and especially the British and French is messy. They split the Middle East up in awkward national groupings. The Islamists want to do away with all borders although as Nusse indicates, local Islamist groups can support political factions that provide them with some advantage. They can never settle for such agreements as ultimate solutions, but they can agree to them keeping the word ?temporary? in the forefront of their thinking. Islamists function in and have agreements with factions and regimes throughout the Middle East and in all Islamic nations. Fighting them is going to be difficult. It is going to require imagination. Alas, we shall probably get very very bloody before we (as a nation) acquire any. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:35 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape Lawrence, welcome back! Glad to see that you're still supporting this war. How you can compare this war to WWII is beyond me, but welcome back anyway. It's good to see your post.