[lit-ideas] Re: Sunday Wotsit
- From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:29:34 -0700 (PDT)
Also, not having sewers doesn't mean not having
paving. The exurbs and suburbs are built in areas
that use septic systems. Storm drains line the
streets to keep rainwater from flooding properties.
The storm drains channel the rain water into streams
that flow into rivers and eventually into wherever
rivers wind up, which is the ocean.
--- Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Concrete jungles aren't the problem, and
> interestingly
> you cite cities of the N.E. where there is relative
> to
> the rest of the country still a lot of water
> (although
> I have to tell you, I mowed the lawn on Friday and
> it
> was dry, like in real dry. I was surprised, but
> that's just anecdotal evidence). The paving over of
> exurbia and concomitant destruction of wetlands and
> habitats (every hear of the housing boom?) is very
> much affecting groundwater. The U.S. is today
> virtually one huge suburb.
>
> As far as the rest of the world, about 80% of the
> 3.5
> billion people who live in cities live in slums. In
> parts of Bombay (Mumbai), there are places where
> there's one toilet for 500 people. So, you're
> right,
> no engineering marvels in a lot of places. Still,
> I'm
> talking about the U.S., and here in the U.S. we are
> one great big highway from coast to coast with all
> the
> roads in between. Water cannot penetrate paved
> roads,
> and the paved roads had once been wetlands. Jimminy
> Cricket I wish it weren't so. But it is.
>
>
>
>
> --- Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Andy
> > <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Except that the paving over of the country by
> > making
> > > it a massive suburb is contributing to the
> > depletion
> > > of groundwater. Instead of seeping into the
> > ground
> > > naturally, rain, when there is rain, is
> channeled
> > into
> > > the drains and from there eventually it runs
> into
> > the
> > > river and into the oceans.
> >
> > But... you've never done the math and this is why
> > your hysterical
> > [literal meaning] emails are so hysterical
> [adopted
> > meaning].
> >
> > The VAST majority of the Earth, and even an
> > extremely "populated"
> > place like The United States of America is STILL
> not
> > sewered, let
> > alone paved. Let's just look at New York State (a
> > pretty populated
> > place -- 6th most densely populated in the USA):
> >
> > Top Ten Cities (by Population):
> >
> > New York, Buffalo, Rochester, Yonkers, Syracuse,
> > Albany, New Rochelle,
> > Mount Vernon, Schenectady, Utica
> >
> > Together about 9.3 million people -- about 47% of
> > the total population
> > of the state live in these ten cities. Total area
> of
> > these cities
> > combined is about 1300 km^2. Total area of New
> York
> > State is about
> > 142,000 km^2. Therefore the most developed half of
> > the state reside on
> > less than ONE percent of the land. This is where
> > your concrete jungles
> > are. Man has actually done VERY little to prevent
> > natural drainage.
> > Yes, ditches, tiles and irrigation is quite
> > developed in the rural
> > parts of a large portion of the country, but the
> > VAST majority of the
> > Earth is NOT even close to being drained by
> anything
> > approaching
> > engineered drainage.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
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