Former Republican governor Milliken of Michigan announced today that he will vote for Kerry. He became governor about twenty years ago when his Democratic opponent was right to life. You wouldn't believe the garbage that Right to Life of Michigan is handing out to people re abortions on the web and in paper. Someone showed me one of these today. Like most of the Republican campaign stuff, there is not a word of truth to it. As the mother and grandmother of a woman and an eight year old girl, I would like to ask people on this list to vote for Kerry rather than Nader, even though I consider Nader an honorable man who is trying to bring about reforms that most people on this list would approve of. I know that there will be abortions, the only issue is whether they will be safe or not. There always were abortions, and a lot of women died before Roe, as many women who were of child bearing age at that time can attest. This administration is also funding abstinence only sex education. They are offering Catholic values health care to federal workers. This means no birth control, no vasectomy, no tubal ligation, no abortion even for the health of the mother. Abortion is unobtainable in 80% of the counties in the US, even for ten year olds who are raped. On our way down South a couple of years ago, we passed a billboard that said, "conception until death." We can all see where this leads. For the rich, safe abortions in another country, for the rest of us, unlimited child bearing or possible death or mutilation. Even the rich will lose relatives to unqualified abortionists. They make an assumption, which is invalid, that their young women will tell them they are pregnant. Not necessarily so. I worked with teen agers for twenty one years. I think I know them quite well. Re Nader, please watch Colorado. They have a ballot proposal for proportional distribution of electoral college votes. If it passes, it will have an effect on this election. This is the way to go for the future. It doesn't guarantee that one or another candidate will gain power, but at least it has the merit of being more democratic. It also would assure that if all the states adopted it, there would be a place for Naderites in the legislature. As you might remember, we discussed the book written by the Yale historian a few months ago. I know there are other good reasons to vote for Kerry. I am not a single issue voter. But for thousands of women and girls, this is a matter of life and death. For our young in Iraq the same thing is true. Life and death, not just political hair splitting. Yours, Veronica > [Original Message] > From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 10/18/2004 12:38:45 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us... > > > > Changing the subject to Nader, I'm surprised that thoughtful Mike Geary > > has any respect for Nader. > > "Thoughtful". I like that. I don't know what to think of it, but I like > it. I also like Nader. No, that's not true. I worship Nader. Nader is > the one true God. Only problem is, he won't be a commodity. Refuses to be. > What the fuck, Ralph? That's what America's all about. Jesus, get a grip. > Sell out. Crimminy. This is a greed-driven culture and you're in the thick > of it, suck up to it, man, like Kerry does. Like Clinton did, and Gore, > Bush I, Bush II, like Nixon and Ike did. It's all about money, hunny. It > always has been and it always will be. Kerry will kill the environment less > quickly, that's true, but kill it he will for a buck, and he'll sell out the > working people to global trade just as he'll continue shoveling money into > the military-industrial complex simply because that's the engine running > this country. Kerry, Bush -- is there really any difference? Kerry is less > offensive to my sensibilities, Bush just seems less a human being. Nader, > however, is cut from a different cloth. If this were a different (i.e., > poetic) world, Nader would be king. > > > > > > > > > If Nader cared about the environment, he (Nader) would be supporting Kerry. > He could bring a sizable number of people. Instead, Nader is supporting > Bush. Nader might be okay as an activist, but as a candidate, he's a fraud. > > > > > > Andy Amago > > > > > > > > Vote Kerry! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK > > mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html