[lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
- From: Carol Kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:31:38 -0700
Mike,
You're right, something's wrong. But the fact remains that a vote for anyone
but Kerry on Nov.2 will contribute to a win for Bush. We didn't think that
situation would be all that horrible, back in 2000, but Bush hasn't been the
kind of middle-roading prez most Dems figured him for. There was a huge
difference between Bush and Gore in 2000, and there's a chasm between Bush
and Kerry now. With Kerry, we'd have a chance to salvage the system of
checks and balances, and maybe not turn into the white Christian nation
Bushites believe we should be.
But whether Bush & Co. will accept a non-win, despite the votes, is a
serious problem.
Ditto for Kerry and the Dems.
Is either party willing to be declared the loser in a tight race? I doubt
it. And who would "declare" such a thing--the Supreme Court again? This
election will be decided in the courts, it seems, if it hasn't already been
settled in some back room. I, for one, don't figure that the Dems will win
the electoral votes, even if you suck it up and vote for Kerry. But you owe
it to your curiousity to hand the Dems a win and see what happens from
there. Should be interesting. Btw, you *are* very cute!
Carol K.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:50 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
> This election is about choosing the best candidate for President. We
think
> that it's a choice between Bush and Kerry, but there are are a lot more
> candidates than them to choose from. There's
> the Prohibition Party, candidate Gene Amondson;
> the Constitution Party; candidate Gene Peroutski;
> the Green Party candidate David Cobb;
> the Libertarian Party candidate David Badnarik;
> the Peace & Liberty Party candidate Leonard Peltier;
> the Party of Personal Choice candidate Charles Jay;
> the Prohibition Party candidate Earl Dodge;
> the Reform Party candidate Ralph Nader;
> the Socialist Party candidate Walt Brown;
> the Socialist Equality Party candidate Walt Auken;
> the Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Colero;
> the Workers World Party candidate John Parker.
>
> In addition there are two Independent canditates, Stanford Andress and
> Thomas Harens. And finally there are the official "write-in" candidates:
> A.J. Albritton (American Republican Party-Mississippi),
> Sterling Allan (Providential Party-Utah),
> Kenneth M. Bonnell (I-Mississippi),
> Harry Braun (I-Arizona),
> Fred Cook (I-Georgia),
> Eric J. Davis (Michigan),
> Robert DiGiulio (Children's Party-Vermont),
> Bob Dorn (Washington),
> Lonnie D. Frank (I-California),
> Ronald "John Galt Jr." Gascon (I-Pensylvania),
> Jack Grimes (United Fascist Union-Pennsylvania),
> Michael Halpin (I-New York),
> Larry D. Hines (I-Texas),
> Georgia Hough (I-Georgia),
> Keith Judd (I-Massachusetts),
> Darren E. Karr (Party X-Oregon),
> Samuel Keegan (I-Rhode Island),
> John Joseph Kennedy (I-Georgia),
> Joseph Martyniuk Jr. (I-Illinois),
> David Mevis (I-Mississippi),
> Muadin (E-Democratic Party-Massachusetts),
> Jeffrey Peters (We The People Party-New Hampshire),
> Andrew M. Rotramel (I-Texas),
> Joseph "Average Joe" Schriner (I-Ohio),
> Dennis P. Slatton (United America Party-North Carolina),
> Dan Snow (I-Texas),
> Brian B. Springfield (I-Virginia),
> Diane Templin (American Party-California),
> Lawrence Rey Topham (I-Utah),
> Lemuel Tucker (I-Michigan),
> Da Vid (Light Party-California),
> Tom Wells (Family Values Party-Florida),
> A.J. Wildman (I-Virginia)
>
> In a truly democratic country, this would not be an election between two
> men, but all of the above. Something's wrong.
>
> Mike Geary
> Memphis
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Veronica Caley" <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:30 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
>
>
> > Andy said:
> > "Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in
environmental
> > matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry."
> >
> > Veronica says: Of course not. I am intending to vote for Kerry and
> > Democratic Congressional representatives and judges. I will vote for
one
> > Republican for regent of one of our universities.
> >
> > I am NOT asking anyone to vote for Nader. I think Nader is a zealot as
is
> > willing to sacrifice the rest of us to four more years of this idiocy.
> > I was only trying to say that if he is a spoiler, which he might very
well
> > turn out to be, he is my enemy. But a lot of what he says is true.
> > A lot of improvement in American life has been due to people on the
> > fringes, which is where labor unions, the idea of Medicare and Social
> > Security benefits were at one time.
> >
> > Example: I get a letter from Hillary Clinton asking me to contribute to
> > the
> > Democratic Party. This is the same week in which she and other
Democrats
> > are shown being wined and dined and lobbied by corporations of
everything
> > and anything. A few weeks later, Zell Miller is going nuts at the
> > Republican Convention telling everyone to vote for Bush, even though he
is
> > a Democrat from Georgia. I contribute to individual candidates for
every
> > office that takes a lot of money, but not the party.
> >
> > In my fantasies I see or hope Nader throwing his support to Kerry. He
> > says
> > he is asking his supporters to only vote for him in those states that
are
> > safe for Bush. Who knows? At this point I don't even believe the
polls.
> > But I am absolutely not voting for Nader and wish no one would. I
didn't
> > vote for him the last time either, and I wish no one had. But it's
worth
> > listening to him.
> >
> > Veronica
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Date: 10/19/2004 9:58:10 AM
> >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Oct 19, 2004 1:09 AM
> >> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
> >>
> >> To Andy and Andreas,
> >>
> >> I am being charitable and giving Nader the benefit of doubt. I am
taking
> >> him at his word that he really wants the reforms he says he does. I
> >> agree
> >> with him that all he wants will not happen with a Democrat or a
> >> Republican
> >> president. I give him the benefit of the doubt because of his
relentless
> >> efforts to improve vehicle safety when the car companies and the
> > government
> >> were trying to label him as some kind of nut. Also, GM was putting
> >> detectives on his trail at that time to try to intimidate him.
> >>
> >> Veronica
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in
environmental
> > matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry.
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > [Original Message]
> >> > From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Date: 10/18/2004 7:56:41 PM
> >> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Oct 18, 2004 5:55 PM
> >> > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As the mother and grandmother of a woman and an eight year old girl,
I
> >> > would like to ask people on this list to vote for Kerry rather than
> > Nader,
> >> > even though I consider Nader an honorable man who is trying to bring
> > about
> >> > reforms that most people on this list would approve of. I
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A.A. I'm still wondering how someone who takes votes away from the
> > party
> >> most capable of giving teeth to his issues and essentially supports
those
> >> opposed to his issues is anything more than a self-serving egomaniac.
> > What
> >> is it I'm not getting?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Andy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yours,
> >> > Veronica
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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