Andy said: "Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in environmental matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry." Veronica says: Of course not. I am intending to vote for Kerry and Democratic Congressional representatives and judges. I will vote for one Republican for regent of one of our universities. I am NOT asking anyone to vote for Nader. I think Nader is a zealot as is willing to sacrifice the rest of us to four more years of this idiocy. I was only trying to say that if he is a spoiler, which he might very well turn out to be, he is my enemy. But a lot of what he says is true. A lot of improvement in American life has been due to people on the fringes, which is where labor unions, the idea of Medicare and Social Security benefits were at one time. Example: I get a letter from Hillary Clinton asking me to contribute to the Democratic Party. This is the same week in which she and other Democrats are shown being wined and dined and lobbied by corporations of everything and anything. A few weeks later, Zell Miller is going nuts at the Republican Convention telling everyone to vote for Bush, even though he is a Democrat from Georgia. I contribute to individual candidates for every office that takes a lot of money, but not the party. In my fantasies I see or hope Nader throwing his support to Kerry. He says he is asking his supporters to only vote for him in those states that are safe for Bush. Who knows? At this point I don't even believe the polls. But I am absolutely not voting for Nader and wish no one would. I didn't vote for him the last time either, and I wish no one had. But it's worth listening to him. Veronica > [Original Message] > From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 10/19/2004 9:58:10 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Oct 19, 2004 1:09 AM > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us... > > To Andy and Andreas, > > I am being charitable and giving Nader the benefit of doubt. I am taking > him at his word that he really wants the reforms he says he does. I agree > with him that all he wants will not happen with a Democrat or a Republican > president. I give him the benefit of the doubt because of his relentless > efforts to improve vehicle safety when the car companies and the government > were trying to label him as some kind of nut. Also, GM was putting > detectives on his trail at that time to try to intimidate him. > > Veronica > > > > Do you really think Democrats are as bad as Republicans in environmental matters? The Sierra Club supports Kerry. > > > Andy > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 10/18/2004 7:56:41 PM > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Veronica Caley <vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Oct 18, 2004 5:55 PM > > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [Spam] Re: Geary is testing us... > > > > > > As the mother and grandmother of a woman and an eight year old girl, I > > would like to ask people on this list to vote for Kerry rather than Nader, > > even though I consider Nader an honorable man who is trying to bring about > > reforms that most people on this list would approve of. I > > > > > > A.A. I'm still wondering how someone who takes votes away from the party > most capable of giving teeth to his issues and essentially supports those > opposed to his issues is anything more than a self-serving egomaniac. What > is it I'm not getting? > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > Veronica > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html