*There is obviously an innate ability to acquire language in humans (not shared with hedgehogs, presumably) but to claim the existence of an innate grammar is in effect to claim that we are born with language, or some crucial aspects of it. This seems highly unlikely on logical grounds. We aren't born knowing the words of a language, or sounds, so why should we be born with a grammar ?* Omar, you have stated that "There is obviously an innate ability to acquire language...," but what is the nature of that ability? That is the question that Chomsky was attempting to answer. He began with a critique of the simple imitation and reinforcement model suggested by B.F. Skinner. If language were learned by imitation alone, it would be impossible to do what speakers of any human language can do, i.e., create new sentences, intelligible to themselves and others, that have never been spoken before. How is that possible? Jakobson's phonology suggested the general form of an answer: Human beings are born with a limited ability to produce and distinguish sounds. The set of potential significant differences is finite, the set of differences significant in any particular human language is a subset of those. Empirically speaking, the sounds of every human language are a subset called phonemes of the possibilities described by the International Phonetic Alphabet, which are limited by the nature of the human vocal tract. When it comes to phonology, every human infant starts with a sensitivity to all of the possibilities described by the IPA, then learns which are NOT significant in whatever language the child learns. Adult speakers of the language mostly, if not entirely, cease to be aware of what are insignificant differences in that language. Thus, for example, adult native speakers of Japanese find it difficult to distinguish the sounds heard as "L" and "R" in English, which makes it hard to distinguish "lice" from "rice." A group of Japanese businessmen created quite a stir in the postwar foreign community when, to encourage the U.S. presidential aspirations of Douglas MacArthur, they hung a large banner from the Sony Building on the Ginza bearing the test, "Best wishes for General MacArthur's erection." Chomsky's gambit was to assume that syntax was acquired in the same way as phonology. That is, there would be a universal set of primitive forms and rules governing their combinations that would account for the differences found in all possible human languages. Thus, for example, let us assume that all languages include words identifiable as subjects, verbs, and objects. There are languages in which the usual order is subject-verb-object, others in which the usual order is subject-object-verb. But there is only a small number of ways in which a set of three types of terms can be ordered. All languages will display one or more of these possibilities. Languages may also differ in having what linguists call either left-branching or right-branching clauses. Thus, for example, English clauses are right-branching: We say "The cat who chased the rat who ate the cheese." Japanese clauses are left branching: "The cheese <object marker>ate rat<object marker>chased cat <stative verb "there was" (chiizu wo tabeta nezumi wo oikaketa neko de aru). But again, the underlying mechanism is the same as in the case of phonology. The human infant is born equipped to process any of the possibilities realised in any language and learns which are not permitted in the language it learns to speak. Why was this theory plausible? Mathematicians had already demonstrated the possibility of generating infinite sets from small finite sets of primitives, e.g., all of of the real numbers from the five Peano postulates. Alan Turing had suggested the fundamental idea now embodied in all digital technology, that an infinite number of differently meaningful strings can be created from series of "1"s and "0"s. The idea that every human infant is, in effect, a programmable Turing machine, with a small set of primitives and a set of basic rules built into its operating system, was not only plausible but appealing. The difficulties with implementing Chomsky's original proposal arise from two sources: (1) disagreement on what the primitives of a universal grammar should be, there being no compelling constraint like that imposed by the vocal tract on phonology, and (2) the very real possibility that human "wetware" works very differently from digital software and hardware, more like an analog than a digital computer, with fuzzy logic embodied in chemical reactions instead of simple binary switches like those that represent "1" or "0" in the case of computers. Whether quantum computing will close the gap between these two models remains to be seen. Cheers, John On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > There is obviously an innate ability to acquire language in humans (not > shared with hedgehogs, presumably) but to claim the existence of an innate > grammar is in effect to claim that we are born with language, or some > crucial aspects of it. This seems highly unlikely on logical grounds. We > aren't born knowing the words of a language, or sounds, so why should we be > born with a grammar ? Those who make such an unlikely claim carry the > burden of empirical proof, which as far as I know hasn't been provided. > But I don't think that I would go as far as to say that this is a > transcendental argument, i.e. it is logically possible or imaginable that > this could be the case. > > O.K. > > > On Sunday, January 5, 2014 7:35 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> > wrote: > I believe that McWhorter's "language hoax" is right on. But perhaps my > reasons > for that conclusion differ from his. Mine are transcendental. I'm not sure > what > his are. But if they're strictly empirical, he doesn't have a leg to stand > on. > > Those amongst us who wish to claim that "It's really all cultural" or "It's > really all political" may wish to consider whether that claim is an > empirical > claim or one making a transcendental (i.e. universal and necessary) claim > about > relations between concepts their possibilities and limits given our "form > of > life" or "being-in-the-world." > > Walter O > > > Quoting Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx>: > > > Julie wrote > > > > > > The article which triggered my original question was all about language > > acquisition and fluency development. Any general reactions to this? > > > > http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258376009/how-language-seems-to-shape-ones-view-of-the-world?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook > > > > > > You might want to look at > > > > > > > > < > http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/30/258376009/how-language-seems-to-shape-ones-view-of-the-world?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook > > > > > > > > http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Sapir%E2%80%93Whorf_hypothesis.html > > > > > > The so-called Sapir-Whorf (Whorf was Sapir's student; they did not > > collaborate) has been around for a long time, under the name 'linguistic > > relativity.' Most people think it's been thoroughly debunked, although a > > 'weaker version of it' is still around. > > > > > > This is the origin of the view your article sets out. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi_time_controversy > > > > > > might be of interest > > > > > > Robert Paul, who has a vast indifference to time > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 jlm@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wordworks.jp/