>Below is a link to an article I came across a few days ago. http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/the-hardest-problem-in-science/40845 Apparently not everyone would agree that it is demonstrated that a thought isn't identical to a brain state.> For reasons given in another post, this article falls short of arguing for, or even perhaps unequivocally asserting, a mind-brain identity: however, there are a number of philosophers who are 'identity theorists' in this sense, some of whom are mentioned below in a discussion of the 'new promissory materialism' as Popper terms it - the tacit resort to a promise being, in effect, a recognition that in the present state of science there does not exist an identity theory in a sufficiently telling empirical form [a form that would distinguish its predicted observations from those compatible with a parallelist or dualist-interactionist view]. Almost thirty years after TSAIB, “Consciousness and its Place in Nature” [Galen Strawson et al., 2006] is a recent enough book that follows many others in the field in failing to even once mention Popper’s work. Nevertheless David Papineau’s contribution, “Comments on Galen Strawson” (more accurately on Strawson’s initial essay), can be seen as defending what in TSAIB Popper termed “promissory materialism” almost thirty years earlier, but which Papineau calls “straightforward physicalism” or “physicSalism” [sic] “(“‘S’ for straightforward, if you like”). Unlike the article Phil urled, Papineau does try to present arguments in favour of his position. He starts from the assumption that there are “familiar causal-explanatory considerations” which favour the view that at some point in the future science will establish that “for any specific phenomenal kind M and any specific physical kind P, that M=P”; and “[m]oreover,…when we have established such M=P identities, then we will therewith have ‘fully captured the nature or essence of experience’ in physical terms, in that the relevant physical term will refer to nothing other than the phenomenal kind M.” This way of putting it is perhaps not fully clear, for the physical term could refer to nothing other than M without necessarily exhausting how M could be referred to. But it becomes clear that Papineau is claiming that the physical term P will exhaust M as a referent in the same way “that ‘the term sodium chloride fully captures the nature and essence of table salt’”: asking, “So why not similarly allow that the term C-fibres firing fully captures the nature and essence of pain?” [C-fibres firing being a placeholder for whatever P we need to capture M]. This might seem at first sight reasonable in that we do not suppose, from the scientific or physicalist POV, that sodium chloride simply refers to the sodium and choride aspects of salt while leaving some 'psychic residue' unaccounted for; but then, and here is a fundamental problem for Papineau’s analogy which is further discussed below, from the scientific or physicalist POV, salt does not have any “phenomenal kind M” or any equivalent of C-fibres firing. It is clear this is promissory materialism, as Papineau doesn’t suppose that current science has yet established any such identity; and while he can “see no reason to think that such advances need to take us beyond physical theories of the same general sort as we already have”, he does admit that “it is possible that our access to such identities will require significant advances in brain science.” In other words, we accept this materialism on the promise that it will deliver the necessary advances, however "significant". [It is also only a promise to claim that these advances will not need to take us beyond physical theories of the same general sort as we already have] While Popper makes it clear he does not assert that “it is impossible that things may happen as the physicalist says here” [TSAIB p.98], nevertheless “all the physicalist offers is, as it were, a cheque drawn against his future prospects, and based on the hope that a theory will be developed one day which solves his problems for him; the hope, in short, that something will turn up.” But the problems of promissory materialism go deeper than it being “a peculiar theory…,essentially…a historical (or historicist) prophecy about future results of brain research and of their impact” [TSAIB p.97]. Is the analogy between certain ‘C-fibres firing=pain’and‘sodium chloride=salt’, a good analogy or a false and misleading analogy? In TSAIB Popper deals with a perhaps analogous analogy: “Following a suggestion by Armstrong, it has become fashionable to refer to the identification of gene = DNA as an analogue of the suggested identification of mental state = brain state”; Popper then argues, “But the analogy is a bad one, because the identification of genes with DNA molecules, while a most important empirical discovery, did not add anything to the metaphysical (or ontological) status of the gene or DNA…Genes themselves were, from the beginning, introduced…as material structures; or more precisely as substructures of the chromosomes. More than thirty years before the DNA theory of genes, detailed maps of the genes were proposed that showed the relative positions of the genes; maps whose principle was confirmed in detail by the recent results of molecular biology. In other words, something like the identity gene = DNA was expected, if not taken for granted, from the beginning of the gene theory.” We might also say, to Papineau’s analogy, that something like the identity salt = sodium chloride was expected, if not taken for granted, when we sought to explain compounds in terms of elements. Equally such an identification does not “add anything to the metaphysical (or ontological) status” of salt, as salt remains wholly in the physical domain and lacks any equivalent of M or C-fibres firing. “The identification of the mind with the brain would be analogous to this only if it was assumed, to start with, that the mind is one of the physical organs, and then found empirically that it was not (say) the heart, or the liver, but rather the brain. While the dependence (or interdependence) of thought, intelligence, subjective experiences, and brain states was expected since Hippocrates’s On the Sacred Disease, only materialists asserted an identity – in the face of considerable factual and conceptual difficulties. This analysis shows that there is no analogy between the two identifications. The claim that they are analogous is not only unwarranted, but misleading” [TSAIB p.95]. Popper goes on to make comments on Quinton’s version of an identity theory that also would seem to apply to Papineau’s “physicSalism”: “Like Feigl, Smart, and Armstrong, [Quinton] regards the identification as empirical. So far, so good. But he does not say how we proceed empirically to test conjectural identifications. And like his predecessors, he does not suggest the kind of test which could possibly be regarded as a test of the identity thesis of mind and brain, as distinct from an interactionist thesis (especially from one which does not operate with a mental substance)” [TSAIB p.96]. Popper has other important arguments that help demolish the idea that views such as Papineau’s represent a properly scientific POV (though clearly they are not important enough to be referenced by any of the eminent contributors to the book). Instead of being the proper scientific POV [as per Papineau and the author of the url'd article] they might be better seen as pseudo-scientific, or indeed anti-scientific:- for the value of a properly scientific reduction is that it increases falsifiability by way of a single, unifying theory (that will always be more falsifiable than the disparate theories its replaces as its predictive range is greater); but without a testable unifying theory to hand, Papineau is offering not a testable, scientific reduction but an untested, metaphysical one - and such a metaphysical reduction lessens falsifiability by discounting the existence of a class of possible events [irreducibly mental events] which class otherwise constitutes a class of potential falsifiers [for example of the theory that M=P]. It is a serious logical and philosophical error to take arguments that favour a scientific reduction, which increases falsifiability, as arguments that favour its logical contradictory – metaphysical or philosophical reductionism that decreases falsifiability. Donal England