________________________________ From: Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:04 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: education I've paid my manual labor dues with over four years of servitude at the big Weyerhaeuser integrated (Kraft paper, finished lumber, plywood, etc.) complex outside Springfield, Oregon. This mill closed in 1989, because it was built for old-growth timber—gigantic logs—and not for those attenuated sticks one sees nowadays. Andy: Until I began reading about it, I too didn't appreciate the value of old growth forests. Something like 80 or 90% of old growth timber worldwide is gone. I don't remember if that includes the Amazon, which is also disappearing at astronomical rates, something like an acre a minute or even a second (yes, that horrible). That has huge climate change consequences. Trees are carbon sinks, along with oceans. In Canada (and into the U.S.) the arboreal forests are being decimated by beetles that are now able to overwinter due to the warmer winters from the heating planet. Millions of acres of trees are dead or dying, which goes into a feedback loop to increase ever more carbon dioxide into the air. The oceans are full of CO2 now too, aren't functioning as carbon sinks the way they were. Much wood is pirated from old growth timber in the Pacific Rim to make hardwood floors for the Western houses. In the U.S. alone we produce enough office paper that just winds up as garbage the equivalent of cutting down the entire Colorado national forest (I don't remember the exact name of the park) four times a year. These ecological losses may never be replaced, certainly not in human years. In terms of global heating, planet temperatures have gone up a degree since 1950. Doesn't sound like much, but planetary temperatures function in a narrow range, the way temperature does in the body. If you have a temperature increase of one degree means you're sick. Since 1850 it's risen 1.5 degrees. We need to stay below 350 ppb CO2 and we're now 398 ppb CO2 in the atmosphere. The climate situation is truly dire. I know you're not a climate denier, but where climate deniers' heads are, I can't imagine. Andy