[lit-ideas] Re: "Promissory Materialism" [was: the first lines are the argument referred by]

  • From: John Wager <jwager@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:14:43 -0600

Donal McEvoy wrote:
. . . . Papineau doesn’t suppose that current science has yet established any such identity; and while he can “see no reason to think that such advances need to take us beyond physical theories of the same general sort as we already have”, he does admit that “it is possible that our access to such identities will require significant advances in brain science.” In other words, we accept this materialism on the promise that it will deliver the necessary advances, however "significant". [It is also only a promise to claim that these advances will not need to take us beyond physical theories of the same general sort as we already have] While Popper makes it clear he does not assert that “it is /impossible/ that things may happen as the physicalist says here” [/TSAIB/ p.98], nevertheless “all the physicalist offers is, as it were, a cheque drawn against his future prospects, and based on the hope that a theory will be developed one day which solves his problems for him; the hope, in short, that something will turn up.”
Here's one way to test this: If scientists succeed in creating a non-phenomenal way to induce the theory of materialism into the brain that does not require a logical analysis of an argument, then the theory should hold true. "Theories" are phenomenal, after all, not material. So "in theory" if materialism is true, its truth should be independent of its phenomenal status; it should be possible to "cause" truth by material changes in the structure of the brain independent of the arguments proposed for that truth.


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