LH: >>You would be much better off not to begin paragraphs like your long one with >>"you still don't get it." You thereby set yourself up as someone who does >>get it. There is irony in that because your subsequent sentences indicate a >>lack of appreciation for some of the common types of poems. Suppose a poet >>wants to use a little irony. You must understand what he is saying in order >>to "get it." You can't be humming along with the tune you think you hear. >>He intends you to pay attention to the sense of this poem in order to >>appreciate the irony. << Aaaaarrrrrgggg! You STILL don't get it! You don't get my point. I do get my point. So there. Let's get specific: Read this poem -- I'll tell you later who wrote it -- not me. A Contemporary What if I came down now out of these solid dark clouds that build up against the mountain day after day with no rain in them and lived as one blade of grass in a garden in the south when the clouds part in winter from the beginning I would be older than all the animals and to the last I would be simpler frost would design me and dew would disappear on me sun would shine through me I would be green with white roots feel worms touch my feet as a bounty have no name and no fear turn naturally to the light know how to spend the day and night climbing out of myself all my life Do you like it? Why / why not? Mike Geary hanging around a few more hours in Memphis