[lit-ideas] Re: Odom on Iran, Iraq and defeat

  • From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:42:49 -0800

You still avoid the question. You want attacks, yet you won't enlist. Why should we listen to you?


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" <cabrian@xxxxxxxxx>


Barnett's comments hit close to home, eh Andreas?  Since you chose to
answer with more ad hominem there isn't much to say except to address
something you continue to write - that I want the U.S. to attack
other countries.  I don't want that.  I have posted about possible
scenarios in dealing with Iran and their nuclear ambition but I hope
that the current regime will topple before it comes to that.
However, if there is a replay of the 1988 Tanker War the United
States will be the de facto force responsible for keeping oil flowing
through the Strait of Hormuz because we are the only navy left that
can project its power literally anywhere in the world.  I know you
prefer to think of conservatives as warmongers but it doesn't help
you in understanding where we're coming from to make things up to fit
your worldview.

~Brian

On Feb 17, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Andreas Ramos wrote:

Well I’m sure certain people loved the General’s ad hominem attack
and relished the use of the chickenhawk trope by an actual man of
the uniform, such an “argument” doesn’t bear evidence to a
confident or nimble intellect. Rather than defend his ideas, Odom
tried to bully his way into winning an argument.


<snipped obligatory I want everyone to know I work in Silicon
Valley and how important we all are weekly update>

Brian, you want the US to attack other countries, yet you won't do
anything about it. You won't go to war. You won't enlist. You won't
even explain why you won't enlist.

You are a bully, talking loud in the classroom about how you'll
beat up others in the playground. You want to push us around. Yet
the fact is that you won't do anything about it. Whether it's
cowardice, or you're just talking nonsense, or you know that new
kid might beat you up, I don't know. But the fact is nobody
believes what you say, not even yourself.

So, please either explain why you won't enlist or stop talking
nonsense.




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