First, I wasn't making an 'argument' but a factual claim. It was discussed at the time. For evidence, see for example: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-endtimes22jun22,0,5277604,full.story?coll=la-headlines-california Also take a look at: http://www.christianzionism.org/ As an evangelical Christian, Shoebat has a vision that goes beyond annexing the entire West Bank?a vision that he avoids mentioning to his Jewish audiences. In private, though, Shoebat explained that he believes there will be ?a great battle at the end?the children of Ishmael versus the Jewish community. Christians believe [the Jews] will?recognize that Jesus is the Messiah in the end.? *Finally, since you recently joined the list, perhaps you could go through the archives to see if you are not simply recycling topics that have been discussed many times before. They are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/lit-ideas/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html