Well, you got that partly right. A-mer-ica is good, but some of our allies were bad and that's why they didn't support us against Saddam. Look up "Oil for Food Scandal." Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:14 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is Huntington right? Lawrence, talking to you is like talking to a robot or a computer. It's programmed to respond in one way, it's programmed to read only certain points of view and it rejects all other inputs. You put on your rosy glasses and see: us, 100% good; them, 100% bad. I'm not supporting the Islamists. There are weird people out there. The way they treat women is a tragedy, but they don't see that it's what's keeping them stuck anymore than you can see what's wrong with us. Of course, fortunately, there's nothing wrong with us. We're so good in fact that we need to export democracy at the point of a gun whether there is soil for it to grow or not. Bleep blip blink flash hum (talking to computer). Output [computer voice] A-mer-ica is good. A-mer-ica is good. A-mer-ica is good. A-mer-ica is good ... It's pointless to mention that our allies were against the invasion of Iraq. [computer voice] A-mer-ica is good. Allies like A-mer-ica. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 4/11/2006 10:01:18 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is Huntington right? Eric, Irene is far too emotional now to explain what shes up to, and perhaps she got so caught up in the Rape of Nanking she forgot, but here is my theory: She is engaged in a left-handed defense of the Islamists: a) Lawrence admires the Japanese because they raped Nanking. b) Lawrence hates the Islamists because they are torturing a few people from time to time. c) Therefore Lawrence is being inconsistent. And since mad President Bush is about to bomb the heck out of Iran, and since Lawrence thinks like Bush, perhaps if Lawrence can be shown that he is being inconsistent, someone might do the same service for the President. The flaw in that reasoning, Irene, is that I dont hate the Islamists because they torture a few people. I oppose them because they have attacked America and Americas allies, they intend to keep on attacking America and its allies, they intend to conquer Europe, and they intend to conquer America. Actually I oppose not only the militant Islamists but the Fundamentalist ones as well because the latter agree with the former except for means. Wahhaj wants to conquer America non-violently, but then he wants to do away with the constitution and institute Sharia law. The French under Napoleon fought the British. And the British were still mistrustful of them prior to WWI. We fought the Japanese during WWII but the new Japanese are kinder and gentler in regard to us. At present we are trying to fight the Islamists and their Fundamentalist allies (despite the help and sympathy they are being given by our lefties) but should they be defeated and should a moderate Islam arise that disavows any interest in conquering us or our allies, then I would be pleased. I might even find a few things to admire in about 60 years. However, Ill be 131 in 60 years so I can promise. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Yost Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:31 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Is Huntington right? Irene/Andy: Lawrence admires the Japanese. The Japanese never even apologized for what they did. Never apologized as in today, can't bring themselves to do it. Irene/Andy writes in English. The Norman-English ruler William the Conqueror invaded Wales in 1093 and killed a whole bunch of people. The Normans never apologized for conquering Wales. Even today, the English never apologize for having subdued Wales. English people. English people living today. They never apologize. Not even once. That must be why Irene/Andy writes in English: he/she likes people who invade and never apologize. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html