[lit-ideas] Re: Is Huntington right?

Good grief, Irene, that's not what the cartoon means.   All the big tanks
(of China, North Korea, the U.S. etc) are moving forward.  Japan has no
military force and it is moving backward.  It is being ignored, treated as
fruit.  So it pulls the covers over its eyes.   I see the cartoon as being
self-depreciating.  

 

Lawrence

 

 

 

 

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> From: Robert Paul <robert.paul@xxxxxxxx>

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> Date: 4/11/2006 12:06:14 AM

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> 

> > I never said any of that stuff is good.  I always said humanity is

equally

> > loathsome and odious.  Your points are valid but miss the mark

completely. 

> > My point is that Lawrence admires one group that engaged in mass

torture so

> > brutal even the Nazis were shocked (not even mentioning what they did to

> > American POW's) and he despises another group because they torture.  Do

you

> > not see anything wrong with that?  

> 

> No. Lawrence isn't 'admiring' what was done by people almost 69 years 

> and condemning something else equally terrible that happened then in a 

> way that would be inconsistent. You need a criterion of identity across 

> time that would identify those (dead) Japanese soldiers from 1937 with 

> Japanese today. There is none except that both are called Japanese. If 

> you want to equate the two, fine, but don't accuse Lawrence of 

> inconsistency because he doesn't.

> 

 

 

You're splitting hairs.  Lawrence admires the Japanese.  The Japanese never

even apologized for what they did.  Never apologized as in today, can't

bring themselves to do it.  Not dead Japanese, live Japanese, today's

Japanese.  Were those kittens in that "cartoon"?  Puppies, caterpillars? 

No, they were tanks.  Cute little tanks that they tucked into bed.  Tanks

are military weapons that deal in death.  That is what Lawrence is

admiring.  Yet people who are doing the same thing a mere 69 years later he

despises.  The Japanese have an ancient history.  69 years to the Japanese

is not a long time.  To Americans it seems like forever since they can't

remember past 3:00 o'clock.  

 

 

 

> Robert Paul

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