--- Andreas Ramos <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Since Mike asked, I take Andreas note below to be > consistent with the Leftist/Islamist > > position. > > Lawrence, Leftists and Islamists have nothing in > common. Each one comes from a long > political and historical tradition and context. > Neither could exist in the other's world. *I'd say that they are two distinct and in many ways different political traditions with largely separate historical roots, although many Islamists from Mawdudi onwards whave been influenced by liberalism. I don't think they are completely irreconcilable, but to be honest it is hard work. It is possible to find support in Islam for human rights, women's rights, democracy, freedom of speech and other liberal ideas. However, left or liberal Islamism is still in the cradle. The most prominent brand of Islamism today, i.e. Islamic fundamentalism, has nothing in common with left liberalism, although it may still be able to co-exist with it peacefully. O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html