In a message dated 8/22/2004 8:25:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >I just have a hard imagining that when one combines men >and booze and professional pleasers let's call them, that sex >isn't involved. Exactly. Incidentally, this is to report something of what I see as a superficiality in the OED. Under 'geisha', it reads, "[Japanese]". We all knew that. But it fails to provide the _real_ etymology of 'geisha' -- as the OED does with Anglo-Saxon etymologies (e.g. 'nightingale'). By contrast, the American Heritage Dictionary does provide the etymology of 'geisha', below. I note that I was mistaken when I wrote that it came from the Japanese for 'sing' and 'dance'. It comes from the Japanese from 'art' ('gei') and 'person' ('sha'). So, if you think of it, Sammy Davis _is_ a geisha. Cheers, JL _http://www.bartleby.com/61/15/G0071500.html_ (http://www.bartleby.com/61/15/G0071500.html) Japanese : gei, art (from Middle Chinese ejh) + sha, person (from Middle Chinese tia). ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html