[lit-ideas] Dutch support killer of van Gogh
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:18:47 -0800
How delightful to have two people so quickly jump to the defense of the
Islamists bent upon taking over Europe. Perhaps Allah is behind them after
all.
I used the term 'immigrant,' but whether immigrant or born in Europe the
majority retain loyalty to the ummah and not to Europe if they were born
there. It is difficult to call them citizens.
Here is an anecdote about another European-born alien: "Van Gogh had been
bicycling to work along a street called Linnaeusstraat when Mohammed
Bouyeri, the Dutch-born son of Moroccan parents and a member of a radical
Muslim network, had shot him, knocking him off his bicycle. Bouyeri,
wearing a long jellaba, pumped up to twenty additional bullets into Van
Gogh's body, stabbed him several times, and slit his throat. He then pinned
to van Gogh's chest with a knife a five-page letter addressed to the
filmmaker's collaborator, Parliament member Ayaan Hirsi Ali, quoting the
Koran and promising her and several other Dutch leaders (whom he named) a
similar end: 'I know definitely that you, O America, will go down. I know
definitely that you, O Europe, will go down. I know definitely that you, O
Netherlands, will go down. I know definitely that you, O Hirsi Ali, will go
down.'
"According to witnesses, van Gogh had said to his murderer (who at the time
was living on welfare payments from the Dutch government): 'Don't do it!
Mercy! Mercy! And: 'Surely we can talk about this.' The blunt, outspoken
van Gogh had been an unsparing critic of European passivity in the face of
fundamentalist Islam; unlike most Europeans, he'd understood the connection
between the war on terror and the European integration crisis, and had
called America 'The last beacon of hope in a steadily darkening world.'
Together he and Hirsi Ali had made a short film, Submission - he'd directed,
she'd written the script - about the mistreatment of women in Islamic
cultures. Yet at the end, it seemed, even he had grasped at the Western
European elite's most unshakable article of faith - the belief in pace and
reconciliation through dialogue."
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Judith Evans
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:13 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: British support of Omar Bakri Muhammed
LH>On page 31 he writes, "After the 2005 terrorist attacks on London,
LH>it emerged that the four suspects had raked in more than half a million
LH> pounds in welfare benefits from the British government.
So our scummier tabloids yelled at the time. (In general terms. I can't
vouch for
the figure of half a million pounds.) But then, *they were, as British
citizens, entitled to
the benefits*.
LH>that Hizb-ut-Tahris founder Omar Bakri Muhammed (who preached
LH> that 'we will conquer the White House . . . we will be in charge and
LH>Muslims will control the earth') was getting "L331.28 a month in
incapacity
LH> benefit and L183.30 a month in disability living allowance''; in
addition,
LH>he collected a 'housing benefit' and a 'council tax benefit,' not to
mention
LH>his wife's welfare intake of 'at least L1,300 a month.' (Curiously,
LH>no mention was made of child benefits for his seven progeny.)
LH>Even his car had been acquired free of charge under a government
program."
Then he too must have been entitled to them.
With Europeans treating its immigrants so royally, why should it not?
The four suspects were not immigrants, Lawrence. They were all -- I believe
-- born here. They were full citizens of the UK.
Does Bawer not know this?
Not that I am opposed to the granting of such benefits as immigrants,
including illegal immigrants -- if they have children -- receive. This
country treats immigrants shabbily, but perhaps, not as shabbily as you
would like.
Judy Evans, Cardiff
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] British support of Omar Bakri Muhammed
Bruce Bawer in his While Europe Slept, How Radical Islam is destroying the
West from Within, 2006 addresses at one point the benefits Muslims
(including Islamists) can get from the various European nations. Britain
was not exempt from his criticism:
On page 31 he writes, "After the 2005 terrorist attacks on London, it
emerged that the four suspects had raked in more than half a million pounds
in welfare benefits from the British government. The Telegraph reported,
too, that Hizb-ut-Tahris founder Omar Bakri Muhammed (who preached that 'we
will conquer the White House . . . we will be in charge and Muslims will
control the earth') was getting "L331.28 a month in incapacity benefit and
L183.30 a month in disability living allowance''; in addition, he collected
a 'housing benefit' and a 'council tax benefit,' not to mention his wife's
welfare intake of 'at least L1,300 a month.' (Curiously, no mention was
made of child benefits for his seven progeny.) Even his car had been
acquired free of charge under a government program."
Further down he quotes Bernard Lewis who in July 2004 "predicted that Europe
would be Islamic by the end of the century." With Europeans treating its
immigrants so royally, why should it not?
Lawrence
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