[lit-ideas] Re: Death of a Thinker

  • From: Judy Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:01:52 +0000

Monday, February 14, 2005, 7:46:03 PM, Phil Enns wrote:

> Judy Evans wrote:

> "But [the lack of a commitment to socialism or communism] wasn't I believe
> true of Philby and co."

PE> I agree and I thought this a bit odd in the movie.


Yes. I thought at the time the movie (the version you saw, anyway) was
true to the book, but may check it out.

PE> In the movie, the mole
PE> is recruited at Oxford in the late '30s, if I remember correctly.  Philby
PE> and co. were, also if I remember correctly, recruited at Oxford about the
PE> same time.  Apparently there was quite a strong wave of socialism that swept
PE> through the student body.

Yes.  How strong, I don't know.

PE> The University of Toronto is a thoroughly establishment school and I find it
PE> ironic that there are almost weekly marches protesting globalization, or
PE> capitalism, or the U.S., and of course sometimes all three at the same time.

Perhaps your establishment places are a bit like ours? Charles (POW)
was almost converted to socialism at Cambridge (but his stair-mate was
a miner's son, so that's a bit different).  ("Almost" because when he
asked the Master of his College, who was one of those old aristocrats
who treated the Queen as though she were their niece, if he could join
the Labour Party, he was warned off... .)

Kenneth Keniston's "Young Radicals" was, I thought, rather good on the
possible reasons (but his ideas can't really be applied to UK
aristocrats, I'd say)


PE> Still wasting time,

good -- good idea -- I'm wasting time tarting up a web page I'm
building!


Judy




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