[lit-ideas] Re: Back to Popper (and further back to Hume)
- From: John Wager <john.wager1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:28:51 -0600
Omar Kusturica wrote:
--- Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, for the life of me, I see now argument. We are
given a sentence, 'All
swans are white,' and asked to 'test' it in light of
the following:
ou are given three boxes to test the proposition.
*In other words, Donal is asking us to defend
inductive probability (regardless of whether or not we
endorse it otherwise) on the basis of clearly
insufficient inductive evidence.
We are "given" what we are smart enough to take. By that I mean that it
IS possible to make some headway about the contents of the third box, IF
we know more about who set up the boxes, why, and how they have set up
similar problems in the past. Of course all this is part of the problem
of induction, but poker players bet against Hume and win every time (so
far). Those "odds" may not pass the muster of logic, but they pass the
muster of money. Anyway, in any game of chance, the other players often
display some quirk, some "tell" that one can use to reduce probability
to something more predictable than the odds would allow. If one ONLY
takes the three boxes on face value, without looking at who set them up,
one has far less to work with. But I'd be willing to bet that one can
make some kinds of predictions of the contents of the third box based on
the "tell" of the person creating the problem. Buddhists would LOVE a
box full of nothing. Zoologists might be tempted to stuff a black swan
into the third box just because people would then see what one looked
like. (Of course, given that the first box contains a swan, we would
already have a partial "tell." The person setting up the problem seems
to have no compunctions about boxing swans, increasing the likelihood
that the third box might contain swan too. If I thought that the person
setting up the boxes was a naturalist that valued eco diversity, I might
bet that the third box was swanless.
These particular examples may strike the reader as vacuous, but similar
patters of thought could increase the probability of one kind of answer
over the other, based not on the logic of induction, but based on an
inductive knowledge of human beings.
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John Wager john.wager1@xxxxxxxxxxx
Lisle, IL, USA
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--- Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, for the life of me, I see now argument. We are given a sentence, 'All swans are white,' and asked to 'test' it in light of the following:ou are given three boxes to test the proposition.
*In other words, Donal is asking us to defend inductive probability (regardless of whether or not we endorse it otherwise) on the basis of clearlyinsufficient inductive evidence.
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