[lit-ideas] Re: Assault Crimes

  • From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:46:02 +0100

LH>I was referring to this: "The murder rates of the U.S. and U.K. are also 
affected by differences in the way each counts homicides. The FBI asks police 
to list every homicide as murder, even if the case isn't subsequently 
prosecuted or proceeds on a lesser charge, 

The FBI's Uniform Crime Reports' figures for homicide don't include
justifiable homicides. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:45 PM
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  I was referring to this: "The murder rates of the U.S. and U.K. are also 
affected by differences in the way each counts homicides. The FBI asks police 
to list every homicide as murder, even if the case isn't subsequently 
prosecuted or proceeds on a lesser charge, making the U.S. numbers as high as 
possible. By contrast, the English police "massage down" the homicide 
statistics, tracking each case through the courts and removing it if it is 
reduced to a lesser charge or determined to be an accident or self-defense, 
making the English numbers as low as possible."



  From this: http://www.reason.com/0211/fe.jm.gun.shtml 



  Someone, maybe Judy, said it was the other way around and I don't have any 
additional info at this point.



  Lawrence



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  >     To Paul Stone:  In one of the articles I posted there was indication

  >     that the U.S. looks worse in the murder category because it counts

  >     every homicide as a murder whereas, apparently, other nations count

  >     them as other things. 



  I don't understand this. Who in the US counts every homicide as murder? 

  Some government agency? The criminal justice system doesn't count every 

  homicide as murder. I mean, to what does 'it' refer?



  Robert Paul

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