Re: backup drives software

  • From: "Kelly Pierce" <kpierce2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:34:24 -0500

Thanks for the heads up. I have had my drive for a month now and it works great. I did though purchase it with a credit card that offers buyer protection so if it breaks or goes missing in 90 days, the credit card company will cover the original purchase. it will also double the manufacturer's warrantee. If one wants premium pampering and emotionally sensitive hand holding, one will likely pay more than $79 for a 120 gig HD that includes a USB 2.0 cable, power supply, free shipping, and no taxes. sometimes, good customer service comes with a bigger price tag.

Kelly
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: backup drives software



Kelly and others,

I have one caution; I looked into the return policy of Buy.com very
carefully, and in short, it stinks!!!  If you read it, it says you just
ask for an RMA within 14 days and all is ok, and there's a small
footnote about RMAs.  When you read the link to the footnote, you find a
*long* list of manufacturers whose products cannot be returned to
buy.com, and SimpleTech is on the list.

I tried repeatedly, via email, to clarify how a return of a SimpleTech
product would work, and who I could contact at SimpleTech to verify that
they would accept a return, and offer a refund, of a product bought via
buy.com.  I never got an email from buy.com that had any resemblance to
proper english, and never could get my questions answered.

My warning is only buy from them if you know you'll have no reason to
return it.

Chip



Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:38 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: backup drives software

bobcat,

Like you, I have been searching for a method to backup
important data on my
system automatically, seamlessly without me needing to remember to do
anything.  The trouble with burning all my data on a CD is
remembering to do
it and scheduling a time for burning when I am not using my
computer.  As a
consequence, I end up saving my e-mail only weekly on Cd and
overall data
about monthly.  My audio projects are too large to burn onto
CD and the
uncompressed audio files aren't transferred to CD until they
are in final
form, weeks or months from original file creation.  If a hard
drive crashed,
yeiks!  A lot of good work would be lost.

For me, backup nirvana would be a totally passive system.
Once installed,
it backups and saves new files, updates changes to existing
files, and
removes deleted files on a daily basis.

My inspiration came after I read a Walter Mossberg column in
the Wall Street
Journal, which I will share below.

    The Wall Street Journal

    October 7, 2004; Page B1

    PC Backup Is a Must Now

    This Method Is Simple, Automated

    by Walter Mossberg

    Backing up your PC is one of those things, like eating
right or changing
your oil on time, that everybody knows they're supposed to
do, but too few
people actually carry off well. For years, computer experts
have warned
users to back up their hard disks regularly, and for years,
most people have
ignored them.

    That's because making such copies traditionally has been boring,
laborious or expensive, depending on the method. I can still
remember how,
in my early days with computers, I'd sit for what seemed like
hours during
backups , feeding dozens of floppy disks into the machine.
Later, I would
fumble with balky tape drives and complex backup software.

    But backing up your precious data is more important today
than ever.
Computers always have been fragile, subject to crashes and
failures. Now,
they are also the target of massive attacks by hackers, virus
writers and
other digital criminals. These assaults can corrupt or
destroy your files --
including digital photos and music -- or force you to
reformat your hard
disk, which also wipes out files.

    So what backup system will protect against such losses
and still is easy
enough to use so that people will do so regularly? I
recommend buying an
add-on hard disk, and using automated backup software to copy
data from your
main hard disk to this backup drive on a regular schedule.

    To overcome user resistance, any backup method must be
simple, unlikely
to run out of space and automated. It also should operate
unattended, on a
schedule, without requiring any manual action by the user.

    [maxtor's onetouch ii] Maxtor's OneTouch II

    That rules out manually copying files to blank CDs, DVDs
or other types
of removable discs. This method may work for some fastidious
folks, but for
most people, it requires too much manual effort to be
effective. And you
easily can run out of space, or blank discs.

    Another method, subscribing to a service that backs up your data
automatically over the Internet, has the advantage of being
automated. But
it can be expensive, and the Web-based services rarely offer
enough space to
back up most of the stuff on today's huge hard disks, unless
you want to pay
through the nose.

    But the extra hard-disk method, if done right, provides
plenty of space,
and it can be completely automated and surprisingly
economical. You don't
even have to open up your computer or install anything
internally. It's easy
today to buy an external hard disk that plugs into a Windows
or Macintosh
computer via the USB 2.0 or FireWire ports and is instantly
recognized by
current operating systems.

    Here's how I back up my own Windows hard disk: I
purchased a 40-gigabyte
hard disk -- the external plug-in variety -- for less than $100 after
rebates. I keep it plugged into my computer. I also purchased
online, for
$35, a small program called SmartSync Pro from a company
called SmartSync
Software at www.smsync.com.

    Every night at 2 a.m., the software springs to life and
synchronizes key
folders I designated on my hard disk with identical folders
on the backup
drive. After the first backup procedure, the program copies
only new or
changed files. If I accidentally delete a file or folder, I
can easily
retrieve it from the backup drive.

    My method works well for me, but it may not be right for
everyone. I did
have to buy the drive and software separately. And the
SmartSync Pro program
isn't as simple as it could be. Plus, I am only backing up
selected files
and folders, while others may prefer to back up their entire
hard disks,
which might require a larger, costlier backup drive.

    So I recently tested a simpler, all-in-one hard-disk
backup solution,
the OneTouch II, from Maxtor. This product consists of an external
plug-and-play hard disk, which can be connected to either a
Windows or
Macintosh computer via USB 2.0 or FireWire. It includes
simple, effective
backup software that can be launched with the touch of a
button on the hard
disk. The software also can be run automatically, on a schedule.

    The OneTouch II currently comes in only two relatively large and
expensive versions, a 250-gigabyte model for $329 and a
300-gigabyte model
for $379. They are bigger than most average users need, but
the company says
it will offer smaller OneTouch II models, at lower prices,
early next year.

    The key to the OneTouch II is the included backup
software -- a special,
simplified version of Retrospect, a well-regarded backup
program from Dantz
Development. The program can automatically back up your whole
hard disk, or
only selected folders and files.

    In my tests, on a Hewlett-Packard Pavilion PC, the
OneTouch II installed
quickly and easily, and the software worked fine. My only
complaint was that
the initial backup was very slow. Backing up 51 gigabytes
took more than 12
hours. Subsequent backups , which only copied new or changed
files, were
much quicker. I deleted a couple of test files and was able
to restore them
rapidly from the backup disk, using the backup program's
"Restore" function.

    OneTouch II is a good product. But whether you buy this
all-in-one
solution or get an add-on hard disk and separate software,
backing up your
data to a second hard disk makes great sense.

    Write to Walter S. Mossberg at
mossberg@xxxxxxx


the article mentions two programs: retrospect and SmartSync Pro. Posters on various blindness-related online mailing lists report that Retrospect is not accessible to the blind, working quite poorly with screen readers. What about SmartSync Pro? Well, I am please to report that I have found accessible backup paradise that allows me to sleep easy at night.

I used a SimpleTech 120-gigabyte hard drive connected to a
windows XP home
computer using USB 2.0 and the SmartSync Pro software
described in the
article.  The SimpleTech drive runs quietly with no cooling
fan.  Users of
Amazon and Cnet had no problems and loved the drive.  I saw a
great deal on
techbargains.com at:

http://www.techbargains.com/

For a $30 rebate from buy.com and free shipping.  This
website is a great
resource for finding the lowest prices on computer equipment.
 The drive
came pre-formatted in FAT32, which was acceptable as it
allows me to connect
it to a windows 98 machine if necessary.  The native file
system for windows
98 is FAT32 and the native system for Windows XP is NTFS.
Windows XP can
accommodate both but Windows 98 can only run FAT32.  Leaving
the drive
formatted in FAT32 gives me the flexibility to connect the
drive in any
computer produced during the past eight years, in the event
that my system
fails entirely.  Included in the box was a USB cable and
power supply.
Installation took 60 seconds and totally consisted of
plugging the power
supply into a wall socket and connecting the drive to a USB
port on my
computer.  My computer instantly recognized it as a separate
hard drive and
automatically assigned it a drive letter.

The big uncertainty was the accessibility of SmartSync Pro.
The program is
shareware, so I could try it for 30 days without buying it.
Within hours of
installing it, I loved it.  It is really accessible, although
some use of
the JAWS cursor is needed though.  The interface could be a
little more
straightforward, but I figured it out easily enough in a
couple of hours.
The software is incredibly flexible, performing backups on a
schedule, in
real time, or at certain time intervals, such as every two
hours.  A group
of folders can be backed up at the same time on the same
schedule or each
folder can be configured to be backed up on its own terms.
Unlike other
programs, SmartSync Pro doesn't produce its backup in a
proprietary file
format.  It copies exactly what is on your computer's hard
drive to the
external drive.  New files are copied automatically.  Files
that have been
changed are updated automatically on a schedule specified in
the folder
configuration.  Deleted files are also deleted.  However,
SmartSync Pro
confirms each deletion from the external drive in the event
of an accidental
deletion from your computer.  The program also offers a
second chance for
deleted items, placing them in a special folder on your
computer's hard
drive for possible future retrieval.

Personally, I backup only my data files and folders.  I don't
backup my
entire hard drive.  I have heard of too many instances where
a file became
corrupted and re-installing the entire hard drive was not
possible.  Rather
than add complexity and risk, I back up only my irreplaceable
data that has
taken many hours to create over the years.  Windows, Winamp,
Duxbury, JAWS,
Microsoft Office, and sound Forge can easily be installed
again and again.
I do save customizable files from these programs, such as
Real Player and
Winamp bookmarks, word's customized dictionary, and similar files.

My schedule is so erratic that I can't commit to a set backup
schedule as I
don't leave my computer on 24 hours a day.  I do though
backup the "My
Documents" folder every two hours and other folders every
three or four
hours.  Some folders are backed up in real time while others used for
archival purposes are backed up manually.

Finally, I can sleep easily at night knowing that if my
computer's hard
drive crashed at any moment and the data was completely
unrecoverable I
would loose nothing and instantly be able to take my USB
drive and plug it
into any PC produced during the last eight years or so and be back in
business with little disruption to my life, work, or my projects.

Kelly


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobcat" <bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "gw-info" <gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: backup drives software



> I'm interested in external hard drives. Some come with their own backup > software. Any suggestions, pros and cons? > > For example: The Maxtor > One Touch II External Hard Drive comes with Daunt Retrospect software. > It > is supposed to be simple but is it screen reader friendly? > > > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >


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