RE: backup drives software
- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:40:38 -0400
Yes, you're absolutely right. But I've had a fair amount of tech
equipment fail on me, and wished to return it, and I've come to
appreciate those businesses that allow returns (not just for failures,
but when you don't like it), and am willing to pay more for that.
I simply wanted to remind folks, who can't necessarily afford to take a
financial hit if something doesn't work for them (say because it's not
accessible), to check out the return policy thoroughly before jumping at
the lowest price.
Chip
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:34 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: backup drives software
>
> Thanks for the heads up. I have had my drive for a month now
> and it works
> great. I did though purchase it with a credit card that offers buyer
> protection so if it breaks or goes missing in 90 days, the
> credit card
> company will cover the original purchase. it will also double the
> manufacturer's warrantee. If one wants premium pampering and
> emotionally
> sensitive hand holding, one will likely pay more than $79 for
> a 120 gig HD
> that includes a USB 2.0 cable, power supply, free shipping,
> and no taxes.
> sometimes, good customer service comes with a bigger price tag.
>
> Kelly
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:48 AM
> Subject: RE: backup drives software
>
>
> > Kelly and others,
> >
> > I have one caution; I looked into the return policy of Buy.com very
> > carefully, and in short, it stinks!!! If you read it, it
> says you just
> > ask for an RMA within 14 days and all is ok, and there's a small
> > footnote about RMAs. When you read the link to the
> footnote, you find a
> > *long* list of manufacturers whose products cannot be returned to
> > buy.com, and SimpleTech is on the list.
> >
> > I tried repeatedly, via email, to clarify how a return of a
> SimpleTech
> > product would work, and who I could contact at SimpleTech
> to verify that
> > they would accept a return, and offer a refund, of a
> product bought via
> > buy.com. I never got an email from buy.com that had any
> resemblance to
> > proper english, and never could get my questions answered.
> >
> > My warning is only buy from them if you know you'll have no
> reason to
> > return it.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:38 AM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: backup drives software
> >>
> >> bobcat,
> >>
> >> Like you, I have been searching for a method to backup
> >> important data on my
> >> system automatically, seamlessly without me needing to
> remember to do
> >> anything. The trouble with burning all my data on a CD is
> >> remembering to do
> >> it and scheduling a time for burning when I am not using my
> >> computer. As a
> >> consequence, I end up saving my e-mail only weekly on Cd and
> >> overall data
> >> about monthly. My audio projects are too large to burn onto
> >> CD and the
> >> uncompressed audio files aren't transferred to CD until they
> >> are in final
> >> form, weeks or months from original file creation. If a hard
> >> drive crashed,
> >> yeiks! A lot of good work would be lost.
> >>
> >> For me, backup nirvana would be a totally passive system.
> >> Once installed,
> >> it backups and saves new files, updates changes to existing
> >> files, and
> >> removes deleted files on a daily basis.
> >>
> >> My inspiration came after I read a Walter Mossberg column in
> >> the Wall Street
> >> Journal, which I will share below.
> >>
> >> The Wall Street Journal
> >>
> >> October 7, 2004; Page B1
> >>
> >> PC Backup Is a Must Now
> >>
> >> This Method Is Simple, Automated
> >>
> >> by Walter Mossberg
> >>
> >> Backing up your PC is one of those things, like eating
> >> right or changing
> >> your oil on time, that everybody knows they're supposed to
> >> do, but too few
> >> people actually carry off well. For years, computer experts
> >> have warned
> >> users to back up their hard disks regularly, and for years,
> >> most people have
> >> ignored them.
> >>
> >> That's because making such copies traditionally has
> been boring,
> >> laborious or expensive, depending on the method. I can still
> >> remember how,
> >> in my early days with computers, I'd sit for what seemed like
> >> hours during
> >> backups , feeding dozens of floppy disks into the machine.
> >> Later, I would
> >> fumble with balky tape drives and complex backup software.
> >>
> >> But backing up your precious data is more important today
> >> than ever.
> >> Computers always have been fragile, subject to crashes and
> >> failures. Now,
> >> they are also the target of massive attacks by hackers, virus
> >> writers and
> >> other digital criminals. These assaults can corrupt or
> >> destroy your files --
> >> including digital photos and music -- or force you to
> >> reformat your hard
> >> disk, which also wipes out files.
> >>
> >> So what backup system will protect against such losses
> >> and still is easy
> >> enough to use so that people will do so regularly? I
> >> recommend buying an
> >> add-on hard disk, and using automated backup software to copy
> >> data from your
> >> main hard disk to this backup drive on a regular schedule.
> >>
> >> To overcome user resistance, any backup method must be
> >> simple, unlikely
> >> to run out of space and automated. It also should operate
> >> unattended, on a
> >> schedule, without requiring any manual action by the user.
> >>
> >> [maxtor's onetouch ii] Maxtor's OneTouch II
> >>
> >> That rules out manually copying files to blank CDs, DVDs
> >> or other types
> >> of removable discs. This method may work for some fastidious
> >> folks, but for
> >> most people, it requires too much manual effort to be
> >> effective. And you
> >> easily can run out of space, or blank discs.
> >>
> >> Another method, subscribing to a service that backs up
> your data
> >> automatically over the Internet, has the advantage of being
> >> automated. But
> >> it can be expensive, and the Web-based services rarely offer
> >> enough space to
> >> back up most of the stuff on today's huge hard disks, unless
> >> you want to pay
> >> through the nose.
> >>
> >> But the extra hard-disk method, if done right, provides
> >> plenty of space,
> >> and it can be completely automated and surprisingly
> >> economical. You don't
> >> even have to open up your computer or install anything
> >> internally. It's easy
> >> today to buy an external hard disk that plugs into a Windows
> >> or Macintosh
> >> computer via the USB 2.0 or FireWire ports and is instantly
> >> recognized by
> >> current operating systems.
> >>
> >> Here's how I back up my own Windows hard disk: I
> >> purchased a 40-gigabyte
> >> hard disk -- the external plug-in variety -- for less than
> $100 after
> >> rebates. I keep it plugged into my computer. I also purchased
> >> online, for
> >> $35, a small program called SmartSync Pro from a company
> >> called SmartSync
> >> Software at www.smsync.com.
> >>
> >> Every night at 2 a.m., the software springs to life and
> >> synchronizes key
> >> folders I designated on my hard disk with identical folders
> >> on the backup
> >> drive. After the first backup procedure, the program copies
> >> only new or
> >> changed files. If I accidentally delete a file or folder, I
> >> can easily
> >> retrieve it from the backup drive.
> >>
> >> My method works well for me, but it may not be right for
> >> everyone. I did
> >> have to buy the drive and software separately. And the
> >> SmartSync Pro program
> >> isn't as simple as it could be. Plus, I am only backing up
> >> selected files
> >> and folders, while others may prefer to back up their entire
> >> hard disks,
> >> which might require a larger, costlier backup drive.
> >>
> >> So I recently tested a simpler, all-in-one hard-disk
> >> backup solution,
> >> the OneTouch II, from Maxtor. This product consists of an external
> >> plug-and-play hard disk, which can be connected to either a
> >> Windows or
> >> Macintosh computer via USB 2.0 or FireWire. It includes
> >> simple, effective
> >> backup software that can be launched with the touch of a
> >> button on the hard
> >> disk. The software also can be run automatically, on a schedule.
> >>
> >> The OneTouch II currently comes in only two relatively
> large and
> >> expensive versions, a 250-gigabyte model for $329 and a
> >> 300-gigabyte model
> >> for $379. They are bigger than most average users need, but
> >> the company says
> >> it will offer smaller OneTouch II models, at lower prices,
> >> early next year.
> >>
> >> The key to the OneTouch II is the included backup
> >> software -- a special,
> >> simplified version of Retrospect, a well-regarded backup
> >> program from Dantz
> >> Development. The program can automatically back up your whole
> >> hard disk, or
> >> only selected folders and files.
> >>
> >> In my tests, on a Hewlett-Packard Pavilion PC, the
> >> OneTouch II installed
> >> quickly and easily, and the software worked fine. My only
> >> complaint was that
> >> the initial backup was very slow. Backing up 51 gigabytes
> >> took more than 12
> >> hours. Subsequent backups , which only copied new or changed
> >> files, were
> >> much quicker. I deleted a couple of test files and was able
> >> to restore them
> >> rapidly from the backup disk, using the backup program's
> >> "Restore" function.
> >>
> >> OneTouch II is a good product. But whether you buy this
> >> all-in-one
> >> solution or get an add-on hard disk and separate software,
> >> backing up your
> >> data to a second hard disk makes great sense.
> >>
> >> Write to Walter S. Mossberg at
> >> mossberg@xxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >> the article mentions two programs: retrospect and SmartSync
> >> Pro. Posters
> >> on various blindness-related online mailing lists report that
> >> Retrospect is
> >> not accessible to the blind, working quite poorly with screen
> >> readers. What
> >> about SmartSync Pro? Well, I am please to report that I have found
> >> accessible backup paradise that allows me to sleep easy at night.
> >>
> >> I used a SimpleTech 120-gigabyte hard drive connected to a
> >> windows XP home
> >> computer using USB 2.0 and the SmartSync Pro software
> >> described in the
> >> article. The SimpleTech drive runs quietly with no cooling
> >> fan. Users of
> >> Amazon and Cnet had no problems and loved the drive. I saw a
> >> great deal on
> >> techbargains.com at:
> >>
> >> http://www.techbargains.com/
> >>
> >> For a $30 rebate from buy.com and free shipping. This
> >> website is a great
> >> resource for finding the lowest prices on computer equipment.
> >> The drive
> >> came pre-formatted in FAT32, which was acceptable as it
> >> allows me to connect
> >> it to a windows 98 machine if necessary. The native file
> >> system for windows
> >> 98 is FAT32 and the native system for Windows XP is NTFS.
> >> Windows XP can
> >> accommodate both but Windows 98 can only run FAT32. Leaving
> >> the drive
> >> formatted in FAT32 gives me the flexibility to connect the
> >> drive in any
> >> computer produced during the past eight years, in the event
> >> that my system
> >> fails entirely. Included in the box was a USB cable and
> >> power supply.
> >> Installation took 60 seconds and totally consisted of
> >> plugging the power
> >> supply into a wall socket and connecting the drive to a USB
> >> port on my
> >> computer. My computer instantly recognized it as a separate
> >> hard drive and
> >> automatically assigned it a drive letter.
> >>
> >> The big uncertainty was the accessibility of SmartSync Pro.
> >> The program is
> >> shareware, so I could try it for 30 days without buying it.
> >> Within hours of
> >> installing it, I loved it. It is really accessible, although
> >> some use of
> >> the JAWS cursor is needed though. The interface could be a
> >> little more
> >> straightforward, but I figured it out easily enough in a
> >> couple of hours.
> >> The software is incredibly flexible, performing backups on a
> >> schedule, in
> >> real time, or at certain time intervals, such as every two
> >> hours. A group
> >> of folders can be backed up at the same time on the same
> >> schedule or each
> >> folder can be configured to be backed up on its own terms.
> >> Unlike other
> >> programs, SmartSync Pro doesn't produce its backup in a
> >> proprietary file
> >> format. It copies exactly what is on your computer's hard
> >> drive to the
> >> external drive. New files are copied automatically. Files
> >> that have been
> >> changed are updated automatically on a schedule specified in
> >> the folder
> >> configuration. Deleted files are also deleted. However,
> >> SmartSync Pro
> >> confirms each deletion from the external drive in the event
> >> of an accidental
> >> deletion from your computer. The program also offers a
> >> second chance for
> >> deleted items, placing them in a special folder on your
> >> computer's hard
> >> drive for possible future retrieval.
> >>
> >> Personally, I backup only my data files and folders. I don't
> >> backup my
> >> entire hard drive. I have heard of too many instances where
> >> a file became
> >> corrupted and re-installing the entire hard drive was not
> >> possible. Rather
> >> than add complexity and risk, I back up only my irreplaceable
> >> data that has
> >> taken many hours to create over the years. Windows, Winamp,
> >> Duxbury, JAWS,
> >> Microsoft Office, and sound Forge can easily be installed
> >> again and again.
> >> I do save customizable files from these programs, such as
> >> Real Player and
> >> Winamp bookmarks, word's customized dictionary, and similar files.
> >>
> >> My schedule is so erratic that I can't commit to a set backup
> >> schedule as I
> >> don't leave my computer on 24 hours a day. I do though
> >> backup the "My
> >> Documents" folder every two hours and other folders every
> >> three or four
> >> hours. Some folders are backed up in real time while
> others used for
> >> archival purposes are backed up manually.
> >>
> >> Finally, I can sleep easily at night knowing that if my
> >> computer's hard
> >> drive crashed at any moment and the data was completely
> >> unrecoverable I
> >> would loose nothing and instantly be able to take my USB
> >> drive and plug it
> >> into any PC produced during the last eight years or so and
> be back in
> >> business with little disruption to my life, work, or my projects.
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bobcat" <bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "gw-info" <gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:40 PM
> >> Subject: backup drives software
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm interested in external hard drives. Some come with
> >> their own backup
> >> > software. Any suggestions, pros and cons?
> >> >
> >> > For example: The Maxtor
> >> > One Touch II External Hard Drive comes with Daunt
> >> Retrospect software.
> >> > It
> >> > is supposed to be simple but is it screen reader friendly?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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