RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
- From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:10:06 -0400
Dave and Brandon,
This will solve the problem. Nicely done. If I may elaborate, locating a
file or folder in a list by first letter can make things go more quickly,
but it risks not only selecting, but also opening, the item. For example, if
you press the first letter of an application in the start/programs list, it
will open the application if it is the only one on your list that begins
with that letter. Suppose you believe mistakenly that JAWS is listed in your
programs under Freedom Scientific, pressing f might result in opening a
totally unrelated application.
Brandon, you're fortunate that your "Notes" folder is first in the list so
that Dave's spacebar solution is perfect and simple. I wonder if pressing n
a second time would return you to Notes and select it. That might be a
workaround in the event the folder you want on another occasion doesn't
come first.
Once I've confirmed I'm in the folder where I want to place a file, with all
files in that folder unselected, I tab once to confirm that the filename
hasn't changed, as you do, and then press alt-s to save. The less tabbing,
the less risk of something else going wrong.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:46 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Brandon:
when you enter the "English" folder, if "Notes" is the first item in the
list, Tap the SPACE BAR instead of pressing the letter N.
By pressing the letter N instead of tapping the SPACE BAR, Windows ignores
the first item in the list and looks for the next item in the list that
begins with that letter. If the first item windows finds in the list, is a
file, not a folder, windows changes the text in the "file Name" edit box to
reflect the selected item in the "List" of files and folders.
This is why you are having to tab to the "File" edit box in order to enter
the correct name you want to give the file before saving it.
A great example of wonderful Microsoft logic for you!
HTH
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Well, what happens with point 10 is: (If you do this it should happen to
you): I hit ctrl S to save, type in say "notes October 20) shift tab to the
folder view and hit m to get to mcollege folder. Then I hit enter, hit e for
English then hit enter, hit n for notes, but because notes is the first
folder and is unselected when I open the English folder, it goes to a
document called "New readings" Now my "Notes October 20" is called "New
readings" and I need to tab back and type in the name "Notes October 20".
This is very annoying if I'm not sure how to spell the word my document is
titled, or if the title is very long. Hope this clarifies my question. Thank
you,
Brandon Keith
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:57 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Yadiel's solution for point 3 is useful information, but it assumes that
Brandon wants the font type and size to be consistent throughout. This is
unlikely if he's using indented text for quotations in an academic paper.
Absolutely, double asterisks as markers should not be kept in the final
version of a paper.
If you correctly interpret Brandon's point 10, another solution is to open
only one document at a time. This is hardly ideal, but it avoids mental and
filename confusion when the mind is preoccupied with numerous other document
questions. for that reason, I often do just that, and it's been years since
I misnamed a document, thereby losing my data.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of G.W. Cox
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:41 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Point 3 would be vanquished by formatting the whole document as Sr.
Sotomayor reported.
I would use bookmarks for annotation or footnotes if it is to be more
formal.
I believe No. 10 is when you are in the process of saving a document and
start to cursor in the target file. Whatever file name that gains focus will
be reflected as the new file's saved name. One just needs to be more careful
in that dialogue.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Brandon,
I'm going to leave it to others to make suggestions in response to your
specific MS Word questions, since I use another word processor, but a few
thoughts.
Your third concern is about fonts. Undoubtedly the cause is that you are
copying quotations from other sources, such as the Internet. It is important
to clean up any copied passage before pasting it into a Word document. The
program I use is Text Monkey, available at www.jfwlite.com I don't know
which OS you're using. Text Monkey works on XP. I can't speak for later
operating systems.
As discussed in a previous exchange, Notepad will also strip out codes,
including formatting controls. You might use that application for your
initial paste, then copy the result into your Word document.
for your second concern, open MS word and then look through your insert-v
options.
Some of your points are confusing to me. In your fifth, are you asking about
a template or how to insert works cited within a document so that JAWS will
read it during, for example, say all?
In your seventh point, what exactly are you looking for JAWS to report? I
know I'm at the end of a document when the status line (JAWS key-3) tells me
the page and line number that matches the number for the entire document.
I'm at a loss to answer your ninth point. A double asterisk always works for
me. Could it be that your annotation appears in a different format that
confuses either Word or JAWS? I sometimes encounter something like that.
Finally, I think you need to clarify your tenth point. You talk about the
document name changing while switching between documents. Can you explain
step by step what occurs?
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brandon Keith
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:08 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
I'm using word 2003.
I'm also wondering if there is any way to get rid of a few problems I've
been having.
First: in word when I copy and paste a word that is misspelled word freezes
up. Second: When I copy WebPages or emails into word I have to remember to
do that paste special and even then http links don't work always. Is there a
way so ctrl V always does paste unformatted text in word? (I never have ever
needed formatted text). Third: I'm told that sometimes my papers are at
least 5 different fonts and sizes. I'm wondering if there is any way to
easily fix this without removing say the MLA formatted titles or page
numbers? Fourth: Are there any settings that should be on in word for
writing MLA? Fifth: where is the best place to make a works sited page done
that is very accessible with Jaws? Sixth: is there any way to jump to
headings in a word document? seventh: sometimes my word doesn't read the
last line on the page when I'm writing and alt tabbing through different
windows. When I arrow up it takes like a second before it starts reading and
then when I hit ctrl end I can't confirm I'm actually at the end of the
document. eighth: is there any way to easily navigate an e-text book in
Word? Jump to pages or find out what page of the book you are on without
having to arrow through the pages hoping the page numbers are actually
there? And if there are 7 different 34s in the book it can be really hard to
find out which number is the actual page, especially if all of them are at
the end of the lines. ninth: Has anyone been able to find a way to
efficiently annotate books in a word document? I've used cymbals such as *~*
to mark quotes, but on the find it doesn't always read the quote it's
marking when I go through them. Tenth: Does anyone know how to tern off the
function that replaces a document's name in the save feature? If I go over
another document when I'm trying to save something the name I have already
typed in the title field gets changed. I hate this the most about my
computer atm... So if this could be fixed it would be a godsend!
Sorry for all the questions, I've just been thrashing walls trying to answer
many of these questions for the last 3 years and never have found the
answers . Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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From: Yadiel Sotomayor
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:35 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Didn't knw that bit of paste special. I will remember that for next time.
Yadiel
From: Robert Logue
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:03 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
http://www.jarte.com/
Jarte has a nice spell checker but not a thesaurus. However, you can press
control+d on a word to go to the wordweb entry for that word.
Jarte detects screen readers and configures it's interface for blind users.
There is a free version and a low cost paid version. I used the free one for
a long time. Check it out.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:00 PM
Subject: Text Editors that work best with Jaws?
Hello, I was told and found that Notepad works way better with Jaws than
Word does. But I'm writing papers and whatnot in Notepad, but there is no
thesaurus and I don't believe any spellchecker. Is there any way to beef up
Notepad? Or are there any other text editors that have the features of word?
Thank you,
Brandon Keith
Check out MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithcom Also add me on
facebook! brandonkeith
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