RE: Off topic Longhorn preview!
- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:34:00 -0700
If the new version is such a great step foreword then why all the
cosmetics?
So it will look better so it will be more marketable. Every company
trys to make there product as apailing as they can. The more graphical
it is the more it is going to sell to the average user. =20
=20
And why all the searches? Does it mean that they expect people to have=20
problems finding things on the drives and why?
Searching utilities has always been an important part of any operating
system. Most average users need to use a search system quite a lot
because they have a tendency to lose track of there files. I my self
only use the search tools to get a file speck witch means have my
computer list only certain file types. =20
As for ME... yours may work, but in my experience you are in the vast=20
minority. I have had the unfortunate pleasure of having to support two=20
different machines using that O. S. Never have I seen a slower or more=20
unstable system in my life. Even the original 98 didn't have as many=20
problems as ME. And yes... they were correctly installed and setup.
Well to each his own. Like I said used it when it came out tell xp came
out and had no problems what so ever. =20
Hth=20
Thanks; Gene
On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: Off topic Longhorn preview!
> Hi, sorry but I do not understand your note below. =3D20
> It clearly states it gives you the option. =3D20
> Also I know a lot of people my self included that used me with no=20
> problems. =3D20 Hth=3D20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=20
> Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:37 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Off topic Longhorn preview!
>
>
> That's all well and good if you are a new comer to computers. But if=20
> you
>
> have been involved with these things for very long the phrase=20
> "avoiding=3D20 anything DOS-like should tip you off to one thing right =
> off the bat... it's=3D20 crap. Microsoft is doing it's usual job of=20
> taking a fairly stable and=3D20 workable product, i. e. XP, and =
screwing
> it up. Remember the much touted and=3D20
> often swore fiasco called Millennium?
>
>
>
> Thanks; Gene
>
> On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:52 AM
> Subject: Off topic Longhorn preview!
>
>
>>I can tell you that Longhorn is far from complete, but what I saw=3D20 =
>>looked great.
>>
>>
>> Longhorn is the working title for the long-awaited next version of=20
>> Windows, XP's replacement. Microsoft hasn't announced a final name or
> firm=3D20
>> ship date,
>>
>> but the company now says that Longhorn [JT1] won't be out before=20
>> late=3D20 next year. And even then, it will lack some=20
>> previously-announced features;
> most=3D20
>> notably
>>
>> the improved
>>
>> WinFS file system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty Pictures
>>
>>
>>
>> The first thing you notice after booting this Longhorn alpha is the=20
>> beautiful icons. Many, including the main ones, like folders, drives,
> and=3D20
>> Computer (the
>>
>> "My" has been dropped), are richer, more detailed, and more=20
>> three-dimensional.
>>
>>
>>
>> But that's just the beginning. Open the Start menu and Click "All=20
>> Programs". Instead of the familiar cascading menu, the left panel
> changes=3D20
>> into a list
>>
>> of all your programs, expandable by clicking the folder icons of=20
>> what=3D20 used to be submenus. If you
>>
>>
>>
>> Want to go to a program that's not visible? The list is=20
>> scrollable,=3D20 but you can also move quickly by simply typing=20
>> appropriate letters. This=3D20 typing won't
>>
>> bring you to programs listed in submenus unless those submenus are=20
>> expanded. Of course, you can expand a submenu by typing the first=20
>> few=3D20 letters of its
>>
>> name, then pressing "Enter" once it's highlighted.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you keep your Start Menu well-organized, with lots of =
submenus=3D20=20
>> inside submenus, this setup will be more of a hassle than a=20
>> convenience. But
> most=3D20
>> people
>>
>> will probably find it an improvement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another nice improvement: A Run text box is located right there on=20
>> the Start menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exploring Longhorn's Explorer
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll also find major improvements in Windows Explorer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Longhorn uses bar charts to display the amount of used and empty=20
>> space
>
>> on
>> displayed drives.
>>
>> First, all the displayed drives have bar charts showing their used=20
>> and empty space. Look closer, and you may notice the lack of drive
> letters.=3D20
>> Longhorn
>>
>> isn't about to show you any DOS-like paths unless you ask for=20
>> them.=3D20 (But yes, they're there if you need them.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Longhorn uses bar charts to display the amount of used and empty=20
>> space
>
>> on
>> displayed drives.
>>
>> Go into a drive, and then into some folders, and you'll discover=20
>> that=3D20 the Address Bar also avoids anything DOS-like. Instead, it=20
>> displays the
> path=3D20
>> as a
>>
>> series of pull-down menus, one for each folder above the current=20
>> one.=3D20 You can pull down any of these for quick navigation around=20
>> your PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's something very cool: Click the View icon on the Standard=20
>> Button
>
>> bar
>> and you'll get a slider that lets you zoom in and out for a closer=20
>> or=3D20 wider view
>>
>> of your icons (which are often views of your files rather than=20
>> symbols
>
>> of
>> their file types). It also lets you switch between the various
> familiar=3D20
>> views.
>>
>>
>>
>> A new bar, on the bottom of the Explorer window, displays the=3D20=20
>> properties of the file you've selected.
>>
>> A new bar, on the bottom of the Explorer window, displays the=3D20=20
>> properties of the file you've selected, including metadata=20
>> (information about the
>
>> file, such
>>
>> as its author, keywords, comments, and so forth). You can edit this=20
>> metadata from Explorer, which will hopefully encourage more people to
> use=3D20
>> it, making
>>
>> searches easier and all the more powerful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching for Possibilities
>>
>>
>>
>> Easier and
>>
>> more powerful searches
>>
>> are a large part of what Longhorn is about, even without the =
WinFS=3D20
>> file system.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Longhorn, Explorer displays column heads for easy sorting, =
even=3D20
>> when it's not in Details view. And these column heads do a lot more=20
>> than
> sort.=3D20
>> Click,
>>
>> say, the date header, and you'll get a drop-down menu that =
clearly=3D20
>> spells out the "Oldest on top" and "Newest on top" options, and also=20
>> lets you
>
>> choose
>>
>> to only view files altered today, last week, or last July.
>>
>>
>>
>> Need a better search than that? Explorer also has a quick search=20
>> bar=3D20 and a Windows 2000-like searching panel (in other words, no=20
>> disgustingly
> cute=3D20
>> dog).
>>
>> Or try the new, full search tool. It helps you set up filters, =
one=3D20
>> after another, until you've refined your search to exactly what you=20
>> need.
> You=3D20
>> could,
>>
>> for instance, look for files containing the text "warthogs are=3D20=20
>> difficult to train," with file names ending in "bob," modified on or=20
>> before
> April=3D20
>> 29, 2005,
>>
>> that are larger than 15,000 bytes. And you can just keep adding=3D20=20
>> criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, it will take a lot more than better searches and an=3D20=20
>> improved user interface to get people to upgrade their operating=20
>> system.
> Perhaps,=3D20
>> when Longhorn
>>
>> finally arrives, we'll actually get an easy, stable, fast, and secure
>> version of Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then again, maybe not.
>>
>>
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>> Longhorn is the working title for the long-awaited next version of=20
>> Windows, XP's replacement. Microsoft hasn't announced a final name or
> firm=3D20
>> ship date,
>>
>> but the company now says that Longhorn won't be out before late=20
>> next=3D20 year. And even then, it will lack some previously-announced =
>> features; most=3D20 notably
>>
>> the improved
>>
>> WinFS file system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty Pictures
>>
>>
>>
>> The first thing you notice after booting this Longhorn alpha is the=20
>> beautiful icons. Many, including the main ones, like folders, drives,
> and=3D20
>> Computer (the
>>
>> "My" has been dropped), are richer, more detailed, and more=20
>> three-dimensional.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here to view full-size image.
>>
>> But that's just the beginning. Open the Start menu and Click "All=20
>> Programs". Instead of the familiar cascading menu, the left panel
> changes=3D20
>> into a list
>>
>> of all your programs, expandable by clicking the folder icons of=20
>> what=3D20 used to be submenus.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here to view full-size image.
>>
>> Want to go to a program that's not visible? The list is=20
>> scrollable,=3D20 but you can also move quickly by simply typing=20
>> appropriate letters. This=3D20 typing won't
>>
>> bring you to programs listed in submenus unless those submenus are=20
>> expanded. Of course, you can expand a submenu by typing the first=20
>> few=3D20 letters of its
>>
>> name, then pressing "Enter" once it's highlighted.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you keep your Start Menu well-organized, with lots of =
submenus=3D20=20
>> inside submenus, this setup will be more of a hassle than a=20
>> convenience. But
> most=3D20
>> people
>>
>> will probably find it an improvement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another nice improvement: A Run text box is located right there on=20
>> the Start menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exploring Longhorn's Explorer
>>
>>
>>
>> You'll also find major improvements in Windows Explorer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here to view full-size image.Longhorn uses bar charts to=20
>> display
>
>> the
>> amount of used and empty space on displayed drives.
>>
>> First, all the displayed drives have bar charts showing their used=20
>> and empty space. Look closer, and you may notice the lack of drive
> letters.=3D20
>> Longhorn
>>
>> isn't about to show you any DOS-like paths unless you ask for=20
>> them.=3D20 (But yes, they're there if you need them.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here to view full-size image.Longhorn uses bar charts to=20
>> display
>
>> the
>> amount of used and empty space on displayed drives.
>>
>> Go into a drive, and then into some folders, and you'll discover=20
>> that=3D20 the Address Bar also avoids anything DOS-like. Instead, it=20
>> displays the
> path=3D20
>> as a
>>
>> series of pull-down menus, one for each folder above the current=20
>> one.=3D20 You can pull down any of these for quick navigation around=20
>> your PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's something very cool: Click the View icon on the Standard=20
>> Button
>
>> bar
>> and you'll get a slider that lets you zoom in and out for a closer=20
>> or=3D20 wider view
>>
>> of your icons (which are often views of your files rather than=20
>> symbols
>
>> of
>> their file types). It also lets you switch between the various
> familiar=3D20
>> views.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here to view full-size image.A new bar, on the bottom of the=20
>> Explorer window, displays the properties of the file you've selected.
>>
>> A new bar, on the bottom of the Explorer window, displays the=3D20=20
>> properties of the file you've selected, including metadata=20
>> (information about the
>
>> file, such
>>
>> as its author, keywords, comments, and so forth). You can edit this=20
>> metadata from Explorer, which will hopefully encourage more people to
> use=3D20
>> it, making
>>
>> searches easier and all the more powerful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching for Possibilities
>>
>>
>>
>> Easier and
>>
>> more powerful searches
>>
>> are a large part of what Longhorn is about, even without the =
WinFS=3D20
>> file system.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Longhorn, Explorer displays column heads for easy sorting, =
even=3D20
>> when it's not in Details view. And these column heads do a lot more=20
>> than
> sort.=3D20
>> Click,
>>
>> say, the date header, and you'll get a drop-down menu that =
clearly=3D20
>> spells out the "Oldest on top" and "Newest on top" options, and also=20
>> lets you
>
>> choose
>>
>> to only view files altered today, last week, or last July.
>>
>>
>>
>> Need a better search than that? Explorer also has a quick search=20
>> bar=3D20 and a Windows 2000-like searching panel (in other words, no=20
>> disgustingly
> cute=3D20
>> dog).
>>
>> Or try the new, full search tool. It helps you set up filters, =
one=3D20
>> after another, until you've refined your search to exactly what you=20
>> need.
> You=3D20
>> could,
>>
>> for instance, look for files containing the text "warthogs are=3D20=20
>> difficult to train," with file names ending in "bob," modified on or=20
>> before
> April=3D20
>> 29, 2005,
>>
>> that are larger than 15,000 bytes. And you can just keep adding=3D20=20
>> criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, it will take a lot more than better searches and an=3D20=20
>> improved user interface to get people to upgrade their operating=20
>> system.
> Perhaps,=3D20
>> when Longhorn
>>
>> finally arrives, we'll actually get an easy, stable, fast, and secure
>> version of Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then again, maybe not.
>>
>>
>>
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