Re: Off topic Longhorn preview!
- From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:19:28 -0400
I hate to sound bitter... but since when did Microsoft make sense? I have
seen so many flat out stupid things done by MS over the years that nothing
they do or don't do surprises me any more.
Thanks; Gene
On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic Longhorn preview!
> Hi,
> Loudingthe sound card driver would be a good thing fors ure.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:03 PM
> Subject: RE: Off topic Longhorn preview!
>
>
>>
>>
>> jim first of all i never said any thing about changing safe mode as it
>> presently is, but some how you got that idea.
>>
>> i do not want them to change the present safe mode at all.
>>
>> so your arguement that it would ruin the present safe mode is with out
>> foundation.
>>
>> their are already 2 safe mode options, the second one including the
>> network
>> driver and that network option does not change the safe mode with out the
>> network driver.
>>
>> a third option that i suggested designed for the blind would load the
>> sound
>> card driver and hence give us access.
>>
>> not effecting the safe mode sighted folks use.
>>
>>
>> about the other drivers being crucial.
>>
>> never have i had a conflict between a piece of hard ware and a com port
>> driver.
>>
>>
>> any piece of hard ware designed that conflicts withc com port drivers
>> will
>> not exist in the market place for a very long time.
>>
>> because 90 percent of all computers have them.
>>
>> same is true of hardware conflicting with the u s b support.
>>
>> so its doubtful that including those 2 drivers to all safe modes would
>> have very little bearing for any user.
>>
>>
>> still to be extra cautious i am only suggesting com port and u s b
>> support
>> would only be added to the version of safe mode for the blind.
>>
>> at least that is what i suggested in my earlier post.
>>
>> not effecting any option that sited users use in their safe mode.
>>
>> oh jim your correct, creative and many companies do not include those
>> drivers.
>>
>>
>> but not because they do not want to.
>>
>> most companies want their end users to have the latest drivers.
>>
>> thats why their offerred for free on the creative site.
>>
>> many of the drivers not included in the o s are available under windows
>> update.
>>
>> ever ask your self why that is?
>>
>> because micro suck wants a fee to include those drivers on the x p cd
>> rom.
>>
>>
>> so the reason is not because creative does not want their end users to
>> have
>> the best experience they can, but because many companies bulk and refuse
>> to
>> pay the fee to micro soft.
>>
>> so x p really is not very good at providing up to date drivers on the cd
>> rom.
>>
>>
>> to illustrate this point one need only examine the number of sound card
>> lines that creative has released since then.
>> not models, but whole lines.
>>
>> audigy 1.
>> audigy 2. with 6.1
>>
>> audigy 2 with 7.1.
>>
>> now the brand new line based on the x5 processor.
>>
>> so the 5.1 line included on the cd rom is about 5 years old.
>>
>> so if m s was serious about access they would wave the fee for sound
>> cards.
>>
>>
>> thanks for the info on the process used on the site and what they do for
>> installing the o s.
>>
>> have to admit i am a little confused as to how it works.
>>
>> how can the computer see the floppy if it does not contain dos.
>>
>>
>> the floppy is not big enough for windows.
>>
>> so leaves me a little confused.
>>
>>
>> still this is far cry from creating a boot disk like the boot disk
>> created
>> in dos.
>>
>>
>> its possible to create a windows boot disk that has the current set up,
>> but
>> m s prevents it.
>>
>> what you end up with is a reinstall that is any thing but current.
>>
>> then you have to repatch.
>> reinstall and ever thing else.
>>
>>
>> even with slip streaming you end up patching.
>>
>> not sure why you say the instructions for adding a driver seem simple,
>> and
>> to be honest those instructions are any thing but simple.
>>
>> he includes the instructions for slip streaming them and uses nero to add
>> them to the cd rom.
>>
>> must be 30 steps.
>>
>> not sure how many of these relate to adding the driver versus slip
>> streaming.
>>
>> their not up to date either, he is slip streaming service pack 1 while
>> service pack 2 is already out.
>>
>> thats another bone of contention for me.
>>
>>
>> why doesn't m s just send registerred users of the o s a copy of the cd
>> with service pack 2 already slip streemed into it for a nominal cost to
>> cover shipping.
>>
>> before anybody says they already do, i am not talking about the service
>> pack 2 buy it self but the entire o s with the service pack 2 included on
>> the install cd.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
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