RE: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
- From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:37:00 -0600
Bruce,
I am getting a bit tired of buying features that either don't work or that
are antithetical to my screen reader needs.
I know for the groupies the standard response would be "if you don't like
it use another screen reader." For better or worse JAWS is the best of the
worst on the market.
I also know that it is easier to sell features than bug fixes.
I for one would like to see more of a back to basics approach to computer
access.
TNX
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:15 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
In answer to your first question, yes, sometimes you do want some FS guy
muckng around in your computer, and if you don't, you don't have to agree
to it. In answer to your second question, of course it's an infomercial,
nobody's ever said otherwise.
bruce
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Larry Stansifer wrote:
> Do you really want some FS tech support guy mucking around in your
> computer? After previewing the "pod cast" it's just another
> infomercial. Let's fix the inherent JFW problems before we create some
> new ones.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:29 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>
>
> Nothing I know of.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>
>
> Does the new release have anything that will help with older versions
> of jaws like jaws 7.1? Thanks, Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>
>
>> I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although
>> I certainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think
>> there's some built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on
>> Apple's side will make with Jaws, because I once explored the site
>> out of curiosity and realized that without buying the JTunes
>> scripts,there wasn't a chance in the world that I could even
>> familiarize myself with the site's layout and features. So
>> that's great, for those who will use it.
>>
>> But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem
>> function that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support
>> person, to directly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually
>> operate it, tweak settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful
>> things. Just plain Jaws users will be able to also use the feature
>> for free acting as the "controller" to
>> help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a
quarterly
>> or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will be
>> that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do
stuff
>> on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, as
>> well, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it
>> works.
>> In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any fee.
FS
>> is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called.
>>
>> I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support
>> person not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in
>> this case a couple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and
>> couldn't duplicate on is own computer. I remember saying something
>> like that audible.com had something like this in place for years, and
>> had often helped me with difficult issues, so what was the big deal
>> for FS? Of course there were reasonable-sounding answers about the
>> complexity of a screen reader being involved or something, so I just
>> let it go. But this ought to be really nice
>> for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>
>>
>> Yeah I know what you mean!
>>
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>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>
>>
>>> I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :)
>>> Definitely worth it.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns
>>>>> to talk about the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we
>>>>> made changes in response to your feedback, but there are exciting
>>>>> new features to show you. We'll demonstrate the powerful
>>>>> out-of-the-box access JAWS users can
>>>>> now enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new feature
>>>>> that
>>>>> will change the way many JAWS users receive support and assistance.
>>>>> This
>>>>> is an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from
>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast
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