Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
- From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:35:32 +0100
Your email implies that if your a jaws user and you want to help another
jaws user occasionally, you wont have to pay anything. However that isn't
how I understood it. The person acting as the 'controller' will either pay
the quarterly or anual amount, but the person who's PC your connecting to
wont pay anything.
Basically means unless your going to use the system quite a bit, it's not
worth it.
As usual with these things, a great idea, but lower the price a bit, and I
gaurantee you'd make more money because lots more people will use them.
Peter
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From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:12 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although I
certainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think there's
some
built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on Apple's side will
make
with Jaws, because I once explored the site out of curiosity and realized
that without buying the JTunes scripts,there wasn't a chance in the world
that I could even familiarize myself with the site's layout and features.
So
that's great, for those who will use it.
But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem function
that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support person, to
directly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually operate it,
tweak
settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful things. Just plain Jaws
users
will be able to also use the feature for free acting as the "controller"
to
help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a quarterly
or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will be
that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do stuff
on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, as
well, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it
works.
In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any fee. FS
is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called.
I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support
person
not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in this case a
couple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and couldn't
duplicate
on is own computer. I remember saying something like that audible.com had
something like this in place for years, and had often helped me with
difficult issues, so what was the big deal for FS? Of course there were
reasonable-sounding answers about the complexity of a screen reader being
involved or something, so I just let it go. But this ought to be really
nice
for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
Yeah I know what you mean!
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Chris Hallsworth
E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: chrishallsworth7266
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :)
Definitely worth it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes.
On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns to
talk
about the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we made changes
in
response to your feedback, but there are exciting new features to show
you. We'll demonstrate the powerful out-of-the-box access JAWS users
can
now enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new feature
that
will change the way many JAWS users receive support and assistance.
This
is an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast
--
Bruce Toews
dogriver@xxxxxxxx
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I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although Icertainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think there's some built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on Apple's side will make
with Jaws, because I once explored the site out of curiosity and realized that without buying the JTunes scripts,there wasn't a chance in the worldthat I could even familiarize myself with the site's layout and features. So
that's great, for those who will use it. But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem function that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support person, todirectly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually operate it, tweak settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful things. Just plain Jaws users will be able to also use the feature for free acting as the "controller" to
help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a quarterly or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will be that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do stuff on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, aswell, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it works.
In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any fee. FS is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called.I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support person
not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in this case acouple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and couldn't duplicate
on is own computer. I remember saying something like that audible.com had something like this in place for years, and had often helped me with difficult issues, so what was the big deal for FS? Of course there were reasonable-sounding answers about the complexity of a screen reader beinginvolved or something, so I just let it go. But this ought to be really nice
for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so.----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10 Yeah I know what you mean! -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10
I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :) Definitely worth it.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes. On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns to talkabout the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we made changes in response to your feedback, but there are exciting new features to showyou. We'll demonstrate the powerful out-of-the-box access JAWS users cannow enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new feature thatwill change the way many JAWS users receive support and assistance. Thisis an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast -- Bruce Toews dogriver@xxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message tojfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfwIf you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, orthe way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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