In answer to your first question, yes, sometimes you do want some FS guy muckng around in your computer, and if you don't, you don't have to agree to it. In answer to your second question, of course it's an infomercial, nobody's ever said otherwise.
bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: bruce@xxxxxxxx LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Larry Stansifer wrote:
Do you really want some FS tech support guy mucking around in your computer? After previewing the "pod cast" it's just another infomercial. Let's fix the inherent JFW problems before we create some new ones. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:29 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10 Nothing I know of. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10 Does the new release have anything that will help with older versions of jaws like jaws 7.1? Thanks, Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10I just listened to the FSCast, too. I'm not an ITunes user, although I certainly can appreciate the difference this scripting I think there's some built-in scripting in Jaws 10, anyway)and the MSAA on Apple's side will make with Jaws, because I once explored the site out of curiosity and realized that without buying the JTunes scripts,there wasn't a chance in the world that I could even familiarize myself with the site's layout and features. So that's great, for those who will use it. But the feature they're making the big fuss about is this Tandem function that will allow someone, for instance a Jaws tech support person, to directly connect with a Jaws user's computer and actually operate it, tweak settings and scripts, and all sorts of helpful things. Just plain Jaws users will be able to also use the feature for free acting as the "controller" to help a Jaws-using friend if it's only occasional usage, or pay a quarterly or annual subscription fee. But for the user, the main advantage will be that when you call FS tech support, they can connect with you and do stuff on your own computer, and you can continue to operate from your side, as well, if that's called for. The podcast explains very clearly how it works. In this case, of course, the Jaws customer doesn't have to pay any fee. FS is paying on the support side, the "controller's" fee it's called. I remember a few years ago I got frustrated about an FS tech support person not being able to duplicate a problem I was describing, in this case a couple of bugs that he had a hard time understanding and couldn't duplicate on is own computer. I remember saying something like that audible.com had something like this in place for years, and had often helped me with difficult issues, so what was the big deal for FS? Of course there were reasonable-sounding answers about the complexity of a screen reader being involved or something, so I just let it go. But this ought to be really nice for some users, especially newer ones but not exclusively so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10 Yeah I know what you mean! -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10I can't wait for the new JAWS beta, just for the iTunes support! :) Definitely worth it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: New FSCast Reveals Big News about JAWS 10I'm excited about the possible patch for Jaws 8 and 9 and iTunes. On 9/22/08, Bruce Toews <Bruce@xxxxxxxx> wrote:The September FSCast is now out. This month, Eric Damery returns to talk about the next public beta of JAWS(R) 10. Not only have we made changes in response to your feedback, but there are exciting new features to show you. We'll demonstrate the powerful out-of-the-box access JAWS users can now enjoy with iTunes(R) 8. Plus, we unveil a significant new feature that will change the way many JAWS users receive support and assistance. This is an FSCast you won't want to miss. It can be obtained from http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast -- Bruce Toews dogriver@xxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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