RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:36:21 -0400

That's not a reasonable argument; that says that they never have to try
and do better because someone will always complain, I don't buy it.

Chip






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Chip Orange
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:14 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> 
> The problem is that no matter what they do, someone's not 
> going to like 
> it. So the best they can do is try to determine what most 
> people are going 
> to want, make that the default, and give one the option. 
> They're still 
> going to get complained to no matter what they do, but at 
> least there's an 
> option.
> 
> Bruce
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> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Dave 'SqueezeBox' Carlson wrote:
> 
> > ...would have been nice if FS had not changed the default 
> mode to something new, at least without letting us know.
> >
> > We waste a lot of time trying to solve problems that are 
> created by well-meaning people who don't consider what 
> dramatic effects might occur from "enhancements" like this.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: Ryan MacIsaac
> >  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:09 AM
> >  Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >  This problem is easily corrected. With Jaws 9, when you 
> copy something from the web, the default is that all 
> formatting from the original web page is retained. Depending 
> on what you paste the selected text into, this may cause a 
> problem. To change this, you need to open the Jaws verbosity 
> options tree view while in your web browser and change the 
> select and copy option. To accomplish this, do the following:
> >
> >
> >
> >  1. Open your web browser.
> >
> >
> >
> >  2. Press the Jaws key plus V to open the new tree view for 
> Jaws options.
> >
> >
> >
> >  3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select 
> and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options. You 
> should have to press the down arrow key three or four times 
> to find this option.
> >
> >
> >
> >  4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press 
> the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all 
> command to read the help information for the select and copy option.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  5. Use the shift tab key to move back to the tree view. 
> Press the space bar to change the options for the select and 
> copy option. To make the option work the way it did in 
> earlier versions of Jaws, select the "from virtual cursor" option.
> >
> >
> >
> >  6. Close the Jaws verbosity options window.
> >
> >
> >
> >  This change is permanent and remains in effect even if you 
> shutdown Jaws or your computer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  The full content option is the default in Jaws 9 - this is 
> what retains all formatting when copying text from a web page.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Ryan
> >
> >
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> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Alexander
> >  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:12 PM
> >  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >  I'm using the latest version of JAWS 9. When I used to use 
> JAWS 8 and early 9 I would just do a copy & paste from either 
> an e.mail or web page and then paste it into a word document 
> and be able to format the copy in the word document, now with 
> the latest version of JAWS 9 when I copy/cut text from some 
> e.mails and all web pages then paste it into a word document 
> I cannot reformat the text that I copied, the pasted text 
> appears to have cells and sometimes only word on a line and 
> it cannot be changed or formatted. Many times I want to 
> cut/copy a financial newsletter from a website and transfer 
> it to a word document and strip out useless content and 
> cannot modify the document. Someone said a HTML document 
> cannot be edited inside a word document and any help from FS 
> has been useless since I get the following from them:
> >
> >  1.  Activate the verbosity dialog "JAWS key+v"
> >
> >  2.  Press the letter s until you get to:
> >
> >  Select and copy from
> >
> >  3.  Press the spacebar until this says virtual cursor and hit enter
> >
> >
> >
> >  Now, see if you can copy as you desire to.
> >
> >
> >
> >  #2: There is no off/on option for that setting, it is 
> switch to a different setting and the virtual cursor option 
> is the option that was used in previous versions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Of course I tried it with no luck, possibly doing 
> something wrong but their instructions to use the space key 
> does nothing. Frustrated to say the least
> >
> >    ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >    From: Ryan MacIsaac
> >
> >    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >    Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:56 AM
> >
> >    Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >    What version of Jaws are you using and exactly what is 
> the problem you are having?
> >
> >
> >
> >    Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Alexander
> >    Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:55 PM
> >    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >    Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >    I too having been pissed off that I cannot copy & paste 
> a web page or e.mail into a word document and edit it as I 
> used to be able to do. Apparently, FS doesn't want to listen 
> since I've sent them several e.mails and to no avail since 
> they think we all should do as they want us to do. So far any 
> assistance I've received from them does not solve the 
> problem, why don't they just work with users? This program is 
> an expensive plus they suck us in for a $120- S/M fee each 
> year, what do we get from that?
> >
> >
> >
> >    I'm about to bite the bullet and can JAWS and purchase 
> EYEs and see if that works any better.
> >
> >
> >
> >    If you find out how we can copy & paste e.mails or web 
> pages into a Word document with the cells and links and edit 
> it, let me know, otherwise I'm done with donating to FS each 
> year for their S/M !
> >
> >      ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >      From: Thomas E. Williamson
> >
> >      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >      Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:11 PM
> >
> >      Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >      First, I use ctrl, plus shift, and end to select the 
> text that I want.
> >
> >      Then, I use ctrl plus c to copy to the cliff board.
> >
> >      Then, I use ctrl plus v to paste in to microsoft Word.
> >
> >      However, when I try to read the text, Jaws reads it as 
> a table with some sort of uni-code.
> >
> >      I just was not sure if there is something in the 
> setting of Word that I might need to change.  (That is, the menus).
> >
> >      The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want,
> >      but to become what God wants.
> >      Regards, Thomas.
> >      twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
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> >        ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >        From: Judith Bron
> >
> >        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >        Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:04 PM
> >
> >        Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >        How are you copying the text?  Are you copying it by 
> the page, by the line or a few words at a time?
> >
> >          ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >          From: Thomas E. Williamson
> >
> >          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >          Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:26 PM
> >
> >          Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Word.
> >
> >
> >
> >          Hello,
> >
> >          When I copy text from the internet and try to 
> paste it in to Word, the text comes up in a table, how can I fix that?
> >
> >          The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want,
> >          but to become what God wants.
> >          Regards, Thomas.
> >          twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
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