Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.

The Escape key as a means to keep changes is a bizarre abuse of the Escape key. 
After all, escape should mean "never mind, I'm bailing out".

The Enter key is more appropriate. 

Dave

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ryan MacIsaac 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:15 PM
  Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.


  Escape will only close the Jaws verbosity tree view window. Any changes you 
have made have already taken effect. As soon as you press the space bar, the 
change to that option takes effect. 



  Ryan







  -----Original Message-----
  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Roy Nickelson
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:53 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



  esc should not be saveing the change,  can you give an example where this is 
occurring I haven't seen it.

  roy



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Roger Levine 

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:34 PM

    Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



    Hi, 

    I think that these new verbosity options in version 9 are some of the most 
powerful Jaws features we now have. I am a bit puzzled that hitting ESCAPE 
saves the changes.  This action doesn't follow standard Windows convention. 

    Roger    

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Ryan MacIsaac 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:09 AM

      Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



      This problem is easily corrected. With Jaws 9, when you copy something 
from the web, the default is that all formatting from the original web page is 
retained. Depending on what you paste the selected text into, this may cause a 
problem. To change this, you need to open the Jaws verbosity options tree view 
while in your web browser and change the select and copy option. To accomplish 
this, do the following:



      1. Open your web browser.



      2. Press the Jaws key plus V to open the new tree view for Jaws options.



      3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This 
is found under the virtual cursor options. You should have to press the down 
arrow key three or four times to find this option.



      4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to 
move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help information 
for the select and copy option.





      5. Use the shift tab key to move back to the tree view. Press the space 
bar to change the options for the select and copy option. To make the option 
work the way it did in earlier versions of Jaws, select the "from virtual 
cursor" option.



      6. Close the Jaws verbosity options window.



      This change is permanent and remains in effect even if you shutdown Jaws 
or your computer.





      The full content option is the default in Jaws 9 - this is what retains 
all formatting when copying text from a web page.



      Ryan

















      -----Original Message-----
      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mark Alexander
      Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:12 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



      I'm using the latest version of JAWS 9. When I used to use JAWS 8 and 
early 9 I would just do a copy & paste from either an e.mail or web page and 
then paste it into a word document and be able to format the copy in the word 
document, now with the latest version of JAWS 9 when I copy/cut text from some 
e.mails and all web pages then paste it into a word document I cannot reformat 
the text that I copied, the pasted text appears to have cells and sometimes 
only word on a line and it cannot be changed or formatted. Many times I want to 
cut/copy a financial newsletter from a website and transfer it to a word 
document and strip out useless content and cannot modify the document. Someone 
said a HTML document cannot be edited inside a word document and any help from 
FS has been useless since I get the following from them:

      1.  Activate the verbosity dialog "JAWS key+v"

      2.  Press the letter s until you get to:

      Select and copy from

      3.  Press the spacebar until this says virtual cursor and hit enter



      Now, see if you can copy as you desire to. 



      #2: There is no off/on option for that setting, it is switch to a 
different setting and the virtual cursor option is the option that was used in 
previous versions.  



        

         

      Of course I tried it with no luck, possibly doing something wrong but 
their instructions to use the space key does nothing. Frustrated to say the 
least

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Ryan MacIsaac 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:56 AM

        Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



        What version of Jaws are you using and exactly what is the problem you 
are having?



        Ryan





        -----Original Message-----
        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mark Alexander
        Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:55 PM
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



        I too having been pissed off that I cannot copy & paste a web page or 
e.mail into a word document and edit it as I used to be able to do. Apparently, 
FS doesn't want to listen since I've sent them several e.mails and to no avail 
since they think we all should do as they want us to do. So far any assistance 
I've received from them does not solve the problem, why don't they just work 
with users? This program is an expensive plus they suck us in for a $120- S/M 
fee each year, what do we get from that?



        I'm about to bite the bullet and can JAWS and purchase EYEs and see if 
that works any better.



        If you find out how we can copy & paste e.mails or web pages into a 
Word document with the cells and links and edit it, let me know, otherwise I'm 
done with donating to FS each year for their S/M !

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Thomas E. Williamson 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:11 PM

          Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



          First, I use ctrl, plus shift, and end to select the text that I want.

          Then, I use ctrl plus c to copy to the cliff board.

          Then, I use ctrl plus v to paste in to microsoft Word.

          However, when I try to read the text, Jaws reads it as a table with 
some sort of uni-code.

          I just was not sure if there is something in the setting of Word that 
I might need to change.  (That is, the menus).

          The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want, 
          but to become what God wants.
          Regards, Thomas.
          twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx



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            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Judith Bron 

            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:04 PM

            Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



            How are you copying the text?  Are you copying it by the page, by 
the line or a few words at a time?

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Thomas E. Williamson 

              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

              Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:26 PM

              Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Word.



              Hello,

              When I copy text from the internet and try to paste it in to 
Word, the text comes up in a table, how can I fix that?

              The purpose of prayer is not to get what we want, 
              but to become what God wants.
              Regards, Thomas.
              twilliamson2007@xxxxxxxxxxx



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