Re: JFW or JFW Pro

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:40:14 -0700

hello.

Believe it or not, that isn't an answer to the question I posed to this 
other person. But it's nice to know you have strong feelings that probably 
agree with his. that's very good. Please understand that I wasn't responding 
to what you assume him to be saying. I wasn't entering into that discussion 
at all. But this isn't the place to try to explain, so don't worry about it. 
Be well, take care.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: JFW or JFW Pro


hi
Personally, I think the very idea of charging  any extra for JAWS to
run under a different operating system is highway robbery and FS
should be called to task for it and be made to stop.
None of the other major screenreaders do this, so why people allow FS
to get away with this is quite beyond me.  it's wrong.




At 05:02 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote:
>hello Danny,
>What does it mean to say that we live in a postmodern and post-Christian
>world and that this is why corporations have marketing practices with which
>we don't agree? Please define both "post modern" and "post Christian," as
>you mean them. If asking this is off topic, then so was making such a
>statement.
>
>thank you very much.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Danny Wells" <dd-wells@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:23 PM
>Subject: Re: JFW or JFW Pro
>
>
>
>They tried, but I dug in my heels.  In short they eventually compensated
>with gift certificates after I told them they were no better than Gateway,
>but I still have XP Pro and have to use the more expensive versionof JFW. 
>I
>learned to make sure the sales person is listening when I purchase anything
>by phone now.  if this is off topic I apologise.  I hope I don't sound like
>I am wining and complaining.  I made a mistake by not making sure the sales
>person was listening, and I learned a lesson, (1 mistake better cake).
>
>Danny
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Peter
>   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:14 PM
>   Subject: Re: JFW or JFW Pro
>
>
>   A bit off topic but did they charge you for the XP Pro? If not, under
>normal circumstances I'd be chuffed to bits with that outcome except for
>having to buy JAWS Pro.
>
>   Peter
>
>
>
>   From: Danny Wells
>   Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:50 PM
>   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: Re: JFW or JFW Pro
>
>
>
>   I bought a computer from Dell.  I ordered XP and received XP Pro.  Dell
>would not acknowledge and correct the mistake, so I ended up having to buy
>the jFW Pro version.  What can I say except We live in a post modern and
>post Christian world; consequently, its ethics, or the lack thereof,
>(HoHum).
>
>   Danny
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Gary King
>     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:18 PM
>     Subject: Re: JFW or JFW Pro
>
>
>     Peter,
>
>     Freedom Scientific has always had a standard and a pro version of 
> JAWS,
>and the only difference has been, and still is, in the authorization.  For
>the pro authorization and for an SMA you have to pay more.
>
>     I've never heard that FS has tried to justify this marketing strategy
>publicly, and really they don't need to as long as it works for them.  They
>calculate that businesses who hire JAWS users and vocational rehab agencies
>who purchase JAWS for clients who are going into employment will pay the
>higher cost for the pro version of JAWS.  GW Micro once had 2 versions of
>Window-Eyes, but they now have only one version that works with all 
>versions
>of XP and Vista.  Of course, the lower priced version of Window-Eyes was 
>the
>one that disappeared from the market.  However, Window-Eyes still sells for
>less than the pro version of JAWS.  I haven't checked lately to find out 
>the
>cost of upgrading from the standard version of JAWS to the pro version, but
>I'm sure it's cheaper than changing screen readers.  So, if you want the
>additional functionality that comes with Vista Business or Vista Ultimate,
>you will just have to bite the bullet and pay the price.
>
>     Gary King
>     w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Peter
>       To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:11 AM
>       Subject: JFW or JFW Pro
>
>
>       Could someone tell me why we need to use JAWS pro for Vista 
> business,
>Ultimate etc.
>
>       The funtionality is no different in the way JAWS works with it or 
> the
>features other than more languages etc.
>
>       All I want is to be able to use the JAWS functionality I have now 
> with
>JAWS 9 standard on Vista Ultimate.
>
>       I'd love to discuss this so please all send your comments.
>
>       Peter
>
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