[jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?

  • From: "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:12:31 +0100

Ah it's OK, that  comment about Vista related to the starting and stopping
of jaws rather than Jamal's original question, I got the subject wrong
there.

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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth
Sent: 20 August 2008 17:58
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?

Ah, but this may not work for Vista users as JAWS doesn't actually load as a

service to speak the Windows Logon dialogue box.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Courcelles" <martinfc@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?


> Well, there is a jfwkill.exe file, but there's a much better way of doing
> things; through the net command.
> I've created 2 shortcut key combinations which use the below commands to
> load and unload Jaws as follows:
> net start JFWService
> Net stop JFWService
> I personally use hoekey, however the built-in windows shortcut keys should
> work.  So now, if Jaws misbehaves, I can kill it in one keystroke and
> reload it with an other.
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
>
>> Date:        Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:07:14 +0100
>> From:        "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To:        <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> ReplyTo:    jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject:    [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>>
>> Hi Jamal
>>
>> There are two things going on here.
>> 1. Sean is correct in that if you use the System Access Mobile Network
>> browser, that is one application and so putting jaws to sleep in the
>> .JCF will in fact work.  This would be logical and is the way jaws would
>> treat any application as you observed.
>> 2. However, certainly what happens for me if I launch the system access
>> screen-reader, which is different altogether, if jaws is running it will
>> be closed automatically and SA will take over.  When I close SA, jaws is
>> not running so I would have to start it from the run dialog.
>> This is a recent initiative. Previously, if jaws was running and I
>> started the SA screen-reader, I would get a dialog to the effect that
>> another screen-reader was running and I had to close it before running
>> SA.  Now it is much more elegant as SA seems to close jaws automatically
>> because there is an executable to stop jaws from running isn't there.
>>
>> Does that help at all?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:55
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>> Normally, JAWS uses application settings when an application
>> becomes the active window, but not otherwise.  This works
>> regardless of what window is active.  By comparison, for example, if
>> JAWS is put to sleep in the .jcf file for Open Book, that setting is
>> only in effect when Open Book is the active application window.  If Open
>> Book is open in another window (requiring Alt+Tab to get there), JAWS
>> will not be asleep.
>>
>> Jamal
>> --Original Message--
>> Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Sean Farrow wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:40:55 +0100
>> > From: Sean Farrow <sean.farrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>> >
>> > Hi Jamal:
>> > This works as the systam accss application is called fbsa.exe. So what
>> is being said is, when ever fbsa loads go to sleep/unmute the
>> synthesizer. > Hth
>> > Sean.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >
>> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:27
>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Why does this work?
>> >
>> > A friend uses System Access sometimes in addition to JAWS.  In an >
>> SA-related forum, he found the instructions below on how to put JAWS to
>> > sleep whenever SA is loaded, and automatically wake it up when SA is >
>> unloaded.  It surprises me that this works because I thought JAWS could
>> > only be put to sleep on a per-application basis (doing this in
>> default.jcf > would not make sense, as far as I know)  Does anyone have
>> ideas about how > this technically works?  My friend confirms that JAWS
>> does
>> > sleep and wake up as intended if the instructions are followed. >
>> > Jamal
>> >
>> > 1. run jaws
>> >
>> > 2. insert+f2 and enter on config manager
>> >
>> > 3. ctrl+n new file named "fbsa" then press enter
>> >
>> > 4. alt+s for set options; then press a for advanced options >
>> > 5. sleep mode enable checkbox checked
>> >
>> > 6. unload synthesizer checkbox checked
>> >
>> > 7. enter on okay
>> >
>> > 8. ctrl+s to save config file; then alt+f4
>> >
>> >
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