[jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?

  • From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:38:05 +0100

In fact, the jfwservice service doesn't exist under Vista. I tried "net 
start jfwservice" at the command prompt and it said "invalid service name", 
something like that.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?


> The behaviour Jamal describes works exactly the same within Windows Vista 
> as
> this is how I use it.
>
> Regards:
>
> Brian Hartgen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth
> Sent: 20 August 2008 17:58
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>
> Ah, but this may not work for Vista users as JAWS doesn't actually load as 
> a
>
> service to speak the Windows Logon dialogue box.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Courcelles" <martinfc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:14 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>
>
>> Well, there is a jfwkill.exe file, but there's a much better way of doing
>> things; through the net command.
>> I've created 2 shortcut key combinations which use the below commands to
>> load and unload Jaws as follows:
>> net start JFWService
>> Net stop JFWService
>> I personally use hoekey, however the built-in windows shortcut keys 
>> should
>> work.  So now, if Jaws misbehaves, I can kill it in one keystroke and
>> reload it with an other.
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date:        Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:07:14 +0100
>>> From:        "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:        <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> ReplyTo:    jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject:    [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>>>
>>> Hi Jamal
>>>
>>> There are two things going on here.
>>> 1. Sean is correct in that if you use the System Access Mobile Network
>>> browser, that is one application and so putting jaws to sleep in the
>>> .JCF will in fact work.  This would be logical and is the way jaws would
>>> treat any application as you observed.
>>> 2. However, certainly what happens for me if I launch the system access
>>> screen-reader, which is different altogether, if jaws is running it will
>>> be closed automatically and SA will take over.  When I close SA, jaws is
>>> not running so I would have to start it from the run dialog.
>>> This is a recent initiative. Previously, if jaws was running and I
>>> started the SA screen-reader, I would get a dialog to the effect that
>>> another screen-reader was running and I had to close it before running
>>> SA.  Now it is much more elegant as SA seems to close jaws automatically
>>> because there is an executable to stop jaws from running isn't there.
>>>
>>> Does that help at all?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>>> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:55
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>> Normally, JAWS uses application settings when an application
>>> becomes the active window, but not otherwise.  This works
>>> regardless of what window is active.  By comparison, for example, if
>>> JAWS is put to sleep in the .jcf file for Open Book, that setting is
>>> only in effect when Open Book is the active application window.  If Open
>>> Book is open in another window (requiring Alt+Tab to get there), JAWS
>>> will not be asleep.
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>> --Original Message--
>>> Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Sean Farrow wrote:
>>>
>>> > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:40:55 +0100
>>> > From: Sean Farrow <sean.farrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work?
>>> >
>>> > Hi Jamal:
>>> > This works as the systam accss application is called fbsa.exe. So what
>>> is being said is, when ever fbsa loads go to sleep/unmute the
>>> synthesizer. > Hth
>>> > Sean.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >
>>> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:27
>>> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Why does this work?
>>> >
>>> > A friend uses System Access sometimes in addition to JAWS.  In an >
>>> SA-related forum, he found the instructions below on how to put JAWS to
>>> > sleep whenever SA is loaded, and automatically wake it up when SA is >
>>> unloaded.  It surprises me that this works because I thought JAWS could
>>> > only be put to sleep on a per-application basis (doing this in
>>> default.jcf > would not make sense, as far as I know)  Does anyone have
>>> ideas about how > this technically works?  My friend confirms that JAWS
>>> does
>>> > sleep and wake up as intended if the instructions are followed. >
>>> > Jamal
>>> >
>>> > 1. run jaws
>>> >
>>> > 2. insert+f2 and enter on config manager
>>> >
>>> > 3. ctrl+n new file named "fbsa" then press enter
>>> >
>>> > 4. alt+s for set options; then press a for advanced options >
>>> > 5. sleep mode enable checkbox checked
>>> >
>>> > 6. unload synthesizer checkbox checked
>>> >
>>> > 7. enter on okay
>>> >
>>> > 8. ctrl+s to save config file; then alt+f4
>>> >
>>> >
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