Ah, but this may not work for Vista users as JAWS doesn't actually load as a service to speak the Windows Logon dialogue box. -- Chris Hallsworth Derbyshire, UK E-mail christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype chrishallsworth7266 Website http://www.chrishallsworth.co.nr Klango chrishallsworth FTP ftp://chrishallsworth.dyndns.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Courcelles" <martinfc@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work? > Well, there is a jfwkill.exe file, but there's a much better way of doing > things; through the net command. > I've created 2 shortcut key combinations which use the below commands to > load and unload Jaws as follows: > net start JFWService > Net stop JFWService > I personally use hoekey, however the built-in windows shortcut keys should > work. So now, if Jaws misbehaves, I can kill it in one keystroke and > reload it with an other. > Cheers, > Martin > > > >> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:07:14 +0100 >> From: "Brian Hartgen" <jaws@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> ReplyTo: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work? >> >> Hi Jamal >> >> There are two things going on here. >> 1. Sean is correct in that if you use the System Access Mobile Network >> browser, that is one application and so putting jaws to sleep in the >> .JCF will in fact work. This would be logical and is the way jaws would >> treat any application as you observed. >> 2. However, certainly what happens for me if I launch the system access >> screen-reader, which is different altogether, if jaws is running it will >> be closed automatically and SA will take over. When I close SA, jaws is >> not running so I would have to start it from the run dialog. >> This is a recent initiative. Previously, if jaws was running and I >> started the SA screen-reader, I would get a dialog to the effect that >> another screen-reader was running and I had to close it before running >> SA. Now it is much more elegant as SA seems to close jaws automatically >> because there is an executable to stop jaws from running isn't there. >> >> Does that help at all? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui >> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:55 >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work? >> >> Hi Sean, >> Normally, JAWS uses application settings when an application >> becomes the active window, but not otherwise. This works >> regardless of what window is active. By comparison, for example, if >> JAWS is put to sleep in the .jcf file for Open Book, that setting is >> only in effect when Open Book is the active application window. If Open >> Book is open in another window (requiring Alt+Tab to get there), JAWS >> will not be asleep. >> >> Jamal >> --Original Message-- >> Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Sean Farrow wrote: >> >> > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:40:55 +0100 >> > From: Sean Farrow <sean.farrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Why does this work? >> > >> > Hi Jamal: >> > This works as the systam accss application is called fbsa.exe. So what >> is being said is, when ever fbsa loads go to sleep/unmute the >> synthesizer. > Hth >> > Sean. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > >> Sent: 20 August 2008 16:27 >> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Why does this work? >> > >> > A friend uses System Access sometimes in addition to JAWS. In an > >> SA-related forum, he found the instructions below on how to put JAWS to >> > sleep whenever SA is loaded, and automatically wake it up when SA is > >> unloaded. It surprises me that this works because I thought JAWS could >> > only be put to sleep on a per-application basis (doing this in >> default.jcf > would not make sense, as far as I know) Does anyone have >> ideas about how > this technically works? My friend confirms that JAWS >> does >> > sleep and wake up as intended if the instructions are followed. > >> > Jamal >> > >> > 1. run jaws >> > >> > 2. insert+f2 and enter on config manager >> > >> > 3. ctrl+n new file named "fbsa" then press enter >> > >> > 4. alt+s for set options; then press a for advanced options > >> > 5. sleep mode enable checkbox checked >> > >> > 6. unload synthesizer checkbox checked >> > >> > 7. enter on okay >> > >> > 8. ctrl+s to save config file; then alt+f4 >> > >> > >> > . >> > >> > __________ >> > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > >> > >> > >> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3371 (20080820) __________ >> > >> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> > >> > http://www.eset.com >> > >> > >> > >> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3371 (20080820) __________ >> > >> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> > >> > http://www.eset.com >> > >> > __________ >> > View the list's information and change your settings at >> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> > >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts