[jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?

  • From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:24:46 -0000

the main advance I would say came in version 6 which saw the introduction of 
a much improved scheme for Internet navigation.  There are more keystrokes 
for moving to different elements e.g. next edit box and next form field.

There have also been some bug fixes in Microsoft Outlook and the calendar 
works much better.  The upgrade is also required if you want to use Office 
2003.

I do accept though that too much of the emphasis has been on bug fixes.  It 
would be good to see the inclusion of propper skype scripts bundled with 
JAWS to let a user know when someone is signing in etc.

Regards

Graham

Regards

Graham
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jim.taggart@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?


just to add my 2 penny worth, i have been using jaws 5.10 pro version for at
least 4 years without any problems. why should i want or need to pay money
toupgrade toversions which appear to be riddled with problems?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Husna Begum" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?


Yeah, but if you miss out on upgrades because you think it hasn't got any
thing of significance to offer then they make you pay in one big whack for
all the upgrades you missed. you are forced to upgrade whether you like it
or not unless you can be bothered to learn to use another screen reader
which may adopt the same policy as the makers of jaws.

Husna

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Beauchamp" <johnbeauchamp@xxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:53 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?


dear Robin,

I quite agree.  I have been watching the conversations re Jaws 8 on the list
and have to ask myself why people would want the up grade? Is there anything
in Jaws 8 that will really make a difference? Surely we have to think about
what we need our computers to do and not about having the latest upgrade for
the sake of it. Personally I have only just got Jaws 7, and anyway  for much
of my work I still use a doss system with Hal-lite and a doss editor called
Qedit. If all i need to do is turn my typing into speech for recording then
it is ideal - and never goes wrong! I only turn to windows and Jaws when
forced to for internet etc.

There is only a market for insignificant upgrades because we create one.

Quite honestly, if it aint broke, and does what you want, don't try and fix
it.

John Beauchamp.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] The great jaws 8 debate?


I sometimes wonder if we've reached a watershed in jaws and what it
achieves in serving our needs. I mean, now we've just been introduced to
IE7 and a suitably compatible version of Jaws, if you're O/S is XP, then
don't you think you have enough ammunition to sit tight for the next
five years and maybe much more without spending any more cash on this
product? This I accept will apply more to the domestic user rather than
us poor pro's in employment.

By the time you reach the point where your system and jfw can't do the
job you need, then your computer system might need replacing, an
alternative screen reader at a much lower price may be around the market
place, and heck, maybe they'll speed up that research and cure us all
who suffer from RP!

I totally agree that the enhancements in recent times, one could argue,
don't justify the upgrade price, and they do tend to bring in these
upgrades at frequent intervals when perhaps they could be re scheduled
to a longer period encompassing more of the new features in one upgrade
instead of two.

But these techies at FS are constantly working to keep up with
technology and I suppose they've got to earn a living, just a pity it
has to be sponsored by us, the drawback of a product that's specialist
and has a limited market. I admit it's easy to be kind of casual about
the product when I'm fortunate to have mine paid by my employer, but I
do sympathise with the domestic users who have to shell out a lot of
cash they can't afford and find it difficult to agree they're getting
value for their money.

All in all it's a fantastic tool for blind and visually impaired people
but it's fast becoming a luxury item.

J m o,

Kind regards,

Robin Clayden,
Edinburgh College of Art,
74 Lauriston Place,
EDINBURGH EH3 9DF.

T: +44 0 131 221 6000
E: r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx
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